Author Topic: fireworks laws (Read 1319 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #30 on:** July 03, 2005, 12:28:38 AM »

Funny thing is all week long as is usual before the 4th on the radio they have been going on about how fireworks are illegal.

And as usual everyone ignores em

Tonight my neighborhood sounded like the Dday landings.

Course I hadta chime in.

Tomorrow night the neighborhood will probably sound like WWIII LOL

Amazing for how dangerous they are that more people dont get hurt.
Still the exeption and not the norm.
Bet like last year more people get hurt in drunk driving accidents then get hurt by firworks

beet1e · « **Reply #31 on:** July 03, 2005, 03:14:51 AM »

LOL - you guys need a permit to buy a bottle rocket?

Fireworks have been a big tradition in my family - every November 5 - Guy Fawkes Day, which commerorates the Gunpowder Plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament on that day in 1605. Read about it here.

I never knew of any restrictions. We could always buy rockets of any size, Roman candles, Catherine wheels (any size - we used to get the 14 inch) six point stars and, for the grande finale, an airbomb battery! My dad loved our fireworks displays, and no expense was spared! We bought the really big ones - those little boxes are a waste of money IMO. Some of the big rockets had sticks about 5ft long.

We had ONE injury once - someone was clearing up and threw some "dead" fireworks on the bonfire. One wasn't quite dead and discharged a ball of flame, burning the guy's leg quite badly.

The only other accident was when one of the big rockets had got wet (Nov.5 is often wet here) and it failed to take off properly. It went horizontal but then ignited properly and took off, blasting into a fence where it became wedged and discharging balls of fire across our garden. Didn't do the fence any good either.

The most dangerous ones were those little aeroplane things - they would fly, but you never knew what the direction was going to be. We made sure the unused fireworks were safely out of the way.

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Sky Rockets: With Permit Only

SOB · « **Reply #32 on:** July 03, 2005, 08:16:51 AM »

Actually, as is pretty clear from everyone noting the state they're in, the restrictions are different from state to state. Driving through South Dakota, for example, you can stop by any number of fireworks places and get mortars plenty large enough to blow yourself to kingdom come...or I suppose you could shoot them into the sky too.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 03, 2005, 08:49:08 AM »

Sparklers:

Both the wire kind and the bamboo kind are sold in the US. Most fireworks injuries come from sparkers. Why? Because morons think that they are made for kids and give them to little ones who get excited, whip them around and poke their little brother in the eye with them.
The wire kind are particularly bad because the wire retains and can transfer a lot of heat. They can be made into bombs.
The bamboo & tissue paper kind can also be made into bombs. “Morning Glory” sparklers have three stages, the last stage contains a lot of aluminum powder; almost the same stuff in firecrackers except a heck of a lot more (if you slick one open lengthwise, you can see all 3 stages). The sparkler kind can detonate, but it takes a big shock to set it off. Want to see for yourself? Get some safety goggles, a long leather glove ear protection a coat and a hammer. Place the Morning Glory on concrete or a big rock. Put on the coat, glove, ear protection and goggles; don’t leave any skin on your hammering hand/arm exposed. Hit the Morning Glory on its bottom stage really really hard. If you get it to detonate, you will know and you will be glad that you put on all of the protection.
The powder from the bottom stage of Morning Glory sparklers is very stable, it can’t detonate from ignition; it needs a massive shock from a hard impact or other detonation to set it off.

eskimo

eskimo2 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 03, 2005, 09:13:42 AM »

Fireworks Laws

They are what they are. Some cities, counties, states, etc. allow certain things, others don’t. Vendors sell them where they legally can. The public buys them where they legally can. Very often stands are located right on a border to take advantage of customers who are entering a legal area in search of fireworks. It’s pretty simple.

Want to shoot off fireworks legally? Just figure out who you know who lives in or owns land in the legal zone and ask them if you can put on a little show for them. If you don’t know anyone in that area, look for a good spot and ask. Sometimes people own gravel pits or such and they don’t care what people do on their land.

Whatever you do, don’t be stupid. If the fire danger is high, don’t shoot them off anywhere. Wait for a better day. Don’t shoot them at people or property that will draw major attention to yourself versus everyone else who is shooting off fireworks civilly. And, don’t carry fireworks in your pockets, always in a bag that you can drop.

eskimo

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #35 on:** July 03, 2005, 09:41:56 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL - you guys need a permit to buy a bottle rocket? Fireworks have been a big tradition in my family - every November 5 - Guy Fawkes Day, which commerorates the Gunpowder Plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament on that day in 1605.

Let's consider the fire danger of November in England vs. July in Southern Califorina.

In which climate would a fire destroying 300 homes more likely occur?

AWMac · « **Reply #36 on:** July 03, 2005, 09:42:07 AM »

Dudes... make yer own fireworks...

Save all the toilet paper/paper towel cardboard tubes.
You can buy gun powder very cheap, hardware store.
Duct tape... the more the better!
Green waterproof fuse by the yards...
Crayons, Crayolas for color!!!
BIG BOOM for the Buck..saves $$$.
Got a Neighbour who's a pain in the arse? Powder, Fuse, Duct tape Mail Box.... need I say more?

Had the City redo many potholes in my Cul~De~Sac year after year...still they are not on to me yet...*Shhhhh....*

Do NOT add tacks or nails... that's anuther thread.

I've ONLY read about this and would NEVAR advocate any of the above.

Have a Safe 4th.

Mac

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #37 on:** July 03, 2005, 09:53:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Deth7
In Florida any day of the year u can see fireworks goin off... the way it should be everywhere else

hehe I remember dropping all kinds of **** on the street from my friend's terrace. Smoke bombs, sparklers, u name it. Shooting rockets too.
Good thing hardly anybody drove on that street.

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #38 on:** July 03, 2005, 09:54:13 AM »

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Originally posted by AWMac

You can buy gun powder very cheap, hardware store.

what you mean you won't MAKE the gunpowder also? you dissapoint me!

JB66 · « **Reply #39 on:** July 03, 2005, 12:36:45 PM »

I remember years ago in Florida there was a problem with selling bottle rockets. The stands would have people sign a disclaimer stating that they were purchasing the bottle rockets "for farm use only". I think that loophole got patched pretty quickly.

beet1e · « **Reply #40 on:** July 03, 2005, 01:45:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Let's consider the fire danger of November in England vs. July in Southern Califorina.

In which climate would a fire destroying 300 homes more likely occur?

The danger is probably more real here! The houses tend to be closer together, and the plots smaller. Nov. 5 is the busiest night of the year for the fire service. The burns units at hospitals do a good trade too. But... (if I may borrow the logic from another discussion) - fireworks are not the problem! A rocket/sparkler/roman candle is an inanimate object - so why the need for permits?

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #41 on:** July 03, 2005, 01:51:21 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
The danger is probably more real here!

Whatever you say...

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #42 on:** July 03, 2005, 02:07:33 PM »

I know that the drive in California was pushed by the fire services. They wanted anything that was burning and could fly out of control, like a bottle rocket or a roman candle, to be illegal lest it land in the dry grass and start a conflagration.

Something about the 4th that puts fireworks in the hands of unsupervised children or drunken adults in 10,000 hectares of dry tinder made firefighters nervous.

beet1e · « **Reply #43 on:** July 04, 2005, 03:18:49 AM »

How does having a permit negate the fire risk?

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #44 on:** July 04, 2005, 08:59:18 AM »

I'm not saying it does Beetle. I am telling you the forces behind the law.(s)

The "safe and sane" fireworks available legally are not ballistic and do not explode. Sparklers and smoke worms and non flying displays. They suck. Buy from Indian reservations where these laws do not apply and you get the good stuff anyway.

The fireworks everyone wants, and many still get, are supposed to be set off in civic displays by professionals. This, if it worked, could lessen the fire danger.