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Offline Raubvogel

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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2005, 11:38:09 PM »
Vorticon, aren't you the guy who looks like a pre-pubescent Harry Potter? I think you should probably defer to folks who have actually walked a mile in the proverbial shoes before you go spouting about the moralities of drugs and alcohol.

Casca has it absolutely right, couldn't have put it any better myself.

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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2005, 01:36:23 AM »
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Do we know alcohol is dangerous? Do we know it can have very harmful effects on folks who abuse it? "

do you understand how alcohol and meth are different? apparently not.


Heh....do you have any idea how far the point being made sailed over your pointy lil head? :)

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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2005, 02:47:24 AM »
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most "precursors" are sold by bulk suppliers to "mega-labs." meth production has been moving away from small time cooks for awhile now. many of the ATF guys in my building are seeing a growing amount of meth coming up from mexico. they can manufacture there with little interefernce and simply have to ship it. this is a consequnce of meth prices becoming high in the midwest--in fact the cases I have been involved with shows that meth prices are on par with cocaine.

The point, moving psuedo-efedra from teh shelf to the pharmacist will  not even begin to address the problem. nor will changin the chemical make-up. these are political, and cosmetic manuvoers that signify nothing and have small effect on either demand or supply.

A solution. First legalize all drugs. Next, a condition to using drugs is that they must be consumed in a certain place (say an old army base converted), and the user must stay there until the effects of the particular drug have worn off. Third, that place must be wired for audio and video. Next, send the audio-video of the users to a couple of cable channels (e.g. cspan) for our entertainment, sell commercials on those channels, and volia we have turned our "drug problem" into a revenue stream. Moreover, exposing what these drugs do to people will be quite the deterent.


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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2005, 01:13:32 PM »
1)Legalization would allow for taxation, thereby generating revenue that can be used for other things. (education, rehab, terrorism, debt, etc)

2)Opening jails and letting drug (users) out, would also free up money since we wouldnt need as many gaurds and prisons.

3)Law enforcement could actually worry about serious issues instead of wasting their time and our tax dollars chasing down street level dealers.

4)Gangs lose a substantial chunk of their income. No money, no guns, no gang, no violence.

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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2005, 05:10:41 PM »
Ther was a chemical co. in one of the industrial complexes I had the snow removal contracts for. Year after year, starting about 10 years ago, thgey got bigger and bigger. They would rent the adjacent address, and knock out walls and keep expanding.

On and on it went. Then 2 years ago they moved out completely and built there own building . Well last year they got raided by the RCMP with the DEA and a whole other bunch of folks with big yellow letters on thier backs. Turns out, one of their biggest sellers was that efedra stuff, and yes they sold in BULK. Truckloads.

Their still in court now.

I hate to say I benefitted, but I also got the contract to return all them addresses to normal. I ended up with 5 truckloads of used building supplies, but all the plywood smells like chemicals. Gunna build a big garage with it i figure.

On another note. Did you see the cop in the west , I believe he's in Seattle or sumptin ,who has all the before and after pics of meth users? Just downright gross. I mean you should see this. I'll see if I can't find a web sight with them. Pretty girls turned into ogres, in a few years. Sad, bloody sad.
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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2005, 06:01:51 PM »
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On another note. Did you see the cop in the west , I believe he's in Seattle or sumptin ,who has all the before and after pics of meth users? Just downright gross. I mean you should see this. I'll see if I can't find a web sight with them. Pretty girls turned into ogres, in a few years. Sad, bloody sad.



I've seen that, and also many real life examples. Its a tragedy.

Does anyone reckon the "industry" that's supplying those folks their drugs now will pony up any money for programs to help them control their addictions?

Read that twice, vorticon, clue alert! :)

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