just a few suggestions that would make this game MEGA real!

[Wilbus]

Originally posted by Alky
Contrails are caused by very cold air, I think you would need to be above 25,000 or so for that or have winter conditions, which we don't in AH.
Stand on the side of the highway in the winter time when it's 40 below, watch the contrails coming from the stacks on trucks
Why are all these guys trying to come up with ways to make the game a big pain in the butt instead of something you can have some fun with for a couple of hours

Why would the game be a big pain in the but if contrails were added? I understand that you are confused if this is what you think contrails are for.

Contrails would be nothing more then a cool eye-candy sort of thing. Would be awsome to watch those high alt buff missions roll in with contrails behind them. Even flown Il2 Sturmovik? Check out the contrails there and you'll understand how nice looking the high alt fights are.

[hubsonfire]

I'd guess he's not bashing contrails, just remarking that we currently lack the conditions for them. However, there's been a surge (or at least it seems there have been) of "realism" ideas that mostly involve ways to avoid fights, prevent fights, stop fights, or cause planes to spontaneously blow up. It seems the majority of these requests are geared toward making AH look like il2, fly like a hardcore simulation, and have all the air to air action of watching paint dry. Adding contrails would be, IMO, the only reasonable request in the list. I don't know the alt/temperature/conditions required, but arbitrarily giving any plane above the cloud layer a contrail would add some eyecandy and a means of picking out distant cons without being too gamey. Would probably take some tweaking, but I'd be in favor of trying it.

[stantond]

The link:

Contrails Physics

Desribes the physics of contrails.  Only the ME262 at high altitude would remotely fill the critieria for such a phenomena.  However, since any flight sim (game) on the net is not real life , and will never ever be, it would be kind of cool to see contrails.  





Regards,

Malta

p.s. I remember the quotes of pilots who flew in air combat during WW2, "hours of boredom punctuated by seconds of sheer terror".   Personally, I don't want to relive that.  No fun.

[Gwjr2]

Originally posted by stantond
The link:

Contrails Physics

Desribes the physics of contrails.  Only the ME262  at high altitude would remotely fill the critieria for such a phenomena.  However, since any flight sim (game) on the net is not real life , and will never ever be, it would be kind of cool to see contrails.  

ummm hellooo that dont look like a 262 to me ....and look contrails




and look more so I guess that physics is a bunch O crap

[Kweassa]

1. we already have it
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
6. maybe
7. you're wrong

[Wilbus]

Gwjr2, a picture says more then a thousand words

[lasersailor184]

I actually believe we need night time back.  It's getting boring without it.

And BTW, the community didn't speak to get rid of night.  It was just a bunch of whiney baby's who wouldn't stop whining.

[dedalos]

NewFPS = CurFPS / Contrails^10.  Everytime some eye candy rolls out, FPS goes down hill.  Not a problem if you are not fighting planes.  Big problem if you are.

[stantond]

Upon further investigation, the technical paper (in pdf)

Contrails Formation

Describes the phenomina of contrails very well as ice particles from the water vapor in engine exhaust.  Soot and other exhaust particles provide nucleation points for the exhaust water vapor to condense and freeze forming contrails.  These ice clouds (contrials) should be able to form for any plane that is in atmospheric conditions allowing the exhaust water vapor to freeze.  

Here is another link talking about WW2 contrails:

Bomber Contrails

I'm ok with contrials, but why you would want them (much like night time) is beyond me.  They were unwanted during WW2 bombing operations.  



Regards,

Malta

[SirLoin]

Add G effects to pilot's head/veiw.

[Sandman]

Remove the canopy frame (or make it somewhat transparent).

Right now, it's as if we all have monocular vision and our heads are mounted on a post that can move left/right/forward/back/up/down, but cannot tilt.

[Wilbus]

I'm ok with contrials, but why you would want them (much like night time) is beyond me. They were unwanted during WW2 bombing operations.

So that us fighter jocks can see buff formations better, just as during WW2

They may have been unwanted for WW2 bomber crews but not for the enemy fighters.

[Gwjr2]

I think they would be cool if HT puts in any type of dynamic weather where they would form at diff alts as in RL. Want to do a buff raid in tod get a weather report and breif like they did, then base your alt accordingly B17s usally bombed from 27k so most of the time they had them.