Author Topic: Here it comes Laz (Read 1047 times)

Krusher · « **Reply #45 on:** July 06, 2005, 07:40:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
If you have to you can outrun a mad man with knife.

I've yet to see anyone outrun a bullet.

Sorry, no comparison.

I am betting your average knife wielding murder doesn't show his weapon of choice until he is in the proper position to use it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 06, 2005, 09:00:42 AM »

skyprancer... some people can outrun a knife weilder (if they are aware of it... most aren't) and some can't.

Some people can hit a running person with a bullet.... most can't.

My guess is that you would not be able to hit a family sedan or london cab with a revolver if you were running at the time. I am not kidding... with your handgun experiance I would be willing to bet that you couldn't hit a london cab with a revolver from even 20 yards if you were running.

At school shootings where the government has made everyone but the bad guy helpless sheep... the bad guy misses most of the time. Knives are much worse up close in most peoples hands..

It's not like in the movies... us with firearms rights know that.. you will just have to take our word for it.

lazs

indy007 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 06, 2005, 09:06:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusher
I am betting your average knife wielding murder doesn't show his weapon of choice until he is in the proper position to use it.

Makes me wonder how many people get stabbed in the back & how many in the front.

Curval · « **Reply #48 on:** July 06, 2005, 09:42:22 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
skyprancer... some people can outrun a knife weilder (if they are aware of it... most aren't) and some can't.

Some people can hit a running person with a bullet.... most can't.

Is this suggesting it is actually safer to be shot at than attacked by a knife lazs? The wording doth suggest it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 06, 2005, 09:51:29 AM »

Most people believe that you are in more danger from an untrained knife wielder at close range than an untrained handgun wielder.

There are plenty of examples of gunfights at close range where dozens of rounds were fired with no hits. Knife weilders generaly get their victim.

The problem is... I don't want to get into a knife fight... even if the attacker allowed me to use my knife... I don't want to have us start carving on each other at close range.

I want to draw a gun and make him run away or fall down and ignore me.

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #50 on:** July 06, 2005, 09:57:54 AM »

deSelys · « **Reply #51 on:** July 06, 2005, 10:01:57 AM »

I don't agree with everything Lazs writes, but he's right about the difficulty of shooting at somebody running (unless he runs directly towards or from you) or shooting while running.

The difference between a gun and a knife is the amount of anger needed to commit a murder:

Gun: just a flash of anger may be enough to pull the trigger and deliver a lethal wound, because the action of pulling a trigger is somewhat distant of killing somebody.

Knife: the anger needs to be greater as the act of pushing several inches of steel inside someone's body is much more "personal" and goes against one's instincts.

Children show these barrier of instincts: their jaw is strong enough to tear chunks of meat from a steack but when they bite another kid they very rarely draw blood and only exceptionally tear the flesh.

The risk of committing something irreparable in a jolt of temper is hence higher with a gun.

lazs2 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 06, 2005, 10:08:38 AM »

yes desely... we are talking about people with intent to commit harm... least I thought we were.

curval... do you think more muggings are done at gunpoint or knifepoint in the U.S.?

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #53 on:** July 06, 2005, 10:10:39 AM »

No idea. Probably knife-point.