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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2005, 10:12:13 AM »
Exactly. "Savings" in most forms like savings accounts and CD's rarely even keep up with inflation. Good investments however, continue to average at least 12% over the long haul. Even if you factor in inflation at an average of 3%, and risk factors at around 2% (provided you are a wise common sense investor) that's a true yield of around 7% compounded over time. It USUALLY works out to between 9 and 10%, but 7% is a SAFE estimate.
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2005, 10:15:25 AM »
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But you only loose your shirt if the buisnesses are no longer in buisness yes?

If your patient and wait it out the stock goes up and leaves you none the worse for wear yes?

9/11 I can understand because entire buisnesses ceased to exist as a result of the attacks.

But an attack like this it would seem to me would only have a short term effect on most if not all buisnesses effected.

While on a personal level the attacks inn London was a very terrible thing. From a buisness standpoint I dont see how it is anything more then a speedbump.


you are correct what you are describing are investors..(investors are in for the long haul..)   What a large amount of the volitility is from are traders...

Merril, Templeton, Fidelity, etc..  These houses trade massive shares of everthing on a daily basis.

They control the market...  When you buy stock you most likely buy it from them directly as they and the market set the price... (they buy so many shares directly from company then resell them to you..)

the effects of the market should be short term due to this attack but with another attack you could have a complete lack of investor confidence (like after 2001 or even before it when Dot.bomb happened) then you have a massive selloff aka a stock market crash..

lets hope that doesn't happen..


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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2005, 11:03:08 AM »
The BBC on the economic impact

It looks to be a minor blip,  but I might buy a few shares of BP to show support.

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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2005, 11:45:06 AM »
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But you only loose your shirt if the buisnesses are no longer in buisness yes?


You loose your shirt when you sell lower than you buy.

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If your patient and wait it out the stock goes up and leaves you none the worse for wear yes?


Yes.

Unless… the price goes down and doesn’t comes back up. Or at least doesn’t come back up before you have to sell. It’s fear of “unless” that gets a lot of people.

But you’re right that over the long run, you’re usually better not to try to time your buys and sells.

Of course many people ignore this advice. Bad news comes out, the market goes down and they sell (at a low price). Good news comes out, the market goes up and they buy (at a high price). This is called getting whipsawed.

Wall street is waist deep in whipsaw dust.
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2005, 12:00:27 PM »
Actualy several bombs has been placed around London financial district.

It might affect the market, when thousands of british dont work... ummm ?

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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2005, 02:56:12 PM »
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as they make it when it goes up and when it goes down...

I think it'll end under 10k today and be back over 12k by Friday the 15th


very glad I was wrong:
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2005, 04:03:42 PM »
Ha! Finishes +20! I couldn't have been more wrong!

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Re: any excuse for a swing...
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2005, 04:19:03 PM »
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as they make it when it goes up and when it goes down...

I think it'll end under 10k today and be back over 12k by Friday the 15th

I'd be quite surprized if it fluctuated that much.  London, like New York, is one of thr three big financial centers but the damage was much less.  Much, much less.

It'll dip a bit, but then recover.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2005, 04:45:26 PM »
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Ha! Finishes +20! I couldn't have been more wrong!


Just curious as to what time it was it went from - to +

I said my gut feeling was that around 1:00 was gonna be the time to buy.
anyone know how close I was?
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2005, 07:35:18 PM »
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Just curious as to what time it was it went from - to +

I said my gut feeling was that around 1:00 was gonna be the time to buy.
anyone know how close I was?


Very close.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=1d

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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2005, 08:52:29 PM »
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Very close.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=1d


Not bad. Looks like I was off by about an hour and a half

Not bad considering Im mostly self educated about the market.

course if I ever got into it for real I'd probably loose my shirt lol
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