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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2005, 03:05:39 AM »
Hey, 715, are you the same 715 from Air Warrior ages ago (like 1988)?

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2005, 11:19:15 PM »
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Hey, 715, are you the same 715 from Air Warrior ages ago (like 1988)?


Yep- I go back to version 1 of AW on the Amiga via CRIS.  Are you the same Brooke?

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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2005, 01:26:16 AM »
Wow!  715!  Yep, I'm the same Brooke.  Jeez.  I haven't talked to you in about 15 years.  It's great to see you again!  You should come say "hello" on the following thread:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128754

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2005, 10:11:45 PM »
Hello!  I'll check out that thread.. thanks.  Oh.. and it was GEnie first, then CRIS (both $6/hr plus another $6/hr in long distance charges to reach them ;)
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2005, 11:04:08 PM »
Remember that AH is a super CPU intensive game so a super-hot video card is only going to help so much.  I have an X850 and I'm CPU limited with my AMD64 3500+.  Frame rates are very good but still things get bogged down with ground-mode view on.  I think alot of guys are getting better performance with more CPU and only a "good" videocard.

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2005, 03:43:02 PM »
I don't know if anyone else would agree but... ATI Radeon 9600XT would probably give you the most bang for the buck.  Its around 150.

Im using that card at the moment... works well.
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2005, 10:52:14 PM »
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I don't know if anyone else would agree but... ATI Radeon 9600XT would probably give you the most bang for the buck.  Its around 150.

Im using that card at the moment... works well.



the 9600Xt is a decent card if you can get one for 70 or 80 bucks , but ive seen 9800pros going for 125 or so , and in my opinion are far better .   Ati is releasing a x800GT , That is going to compete in the 150 range . The reviews ive seen so far are very good for the price range .   38

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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2005, 10:55:40 PM »
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Remember that AH is a super CPU intensive game so a super-hot video card is only going to help so much.  I have an X850 and I'm CPU limited with my AMD64 3500+.  Frame rates are very good but still things get bogged down with ground-mode view on.  I think alot of guys are getting better performance with more CPU and only a "good" videocard.

-Soda


Soda , i couldnt agree more . I get absolutely no improvement in my fps if i over clock my X800, Now if i bump the Fsb on the cpu it is a marked improvement . I wonder if the X2 AMD 64 guys are even making the the higher end video cards the bottleneck yet 38

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2005, 08:11:13 PM »
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I don't know if anyone else would agree but... ATI Radeon 9600XT would probably give you the most bang for the buck.  Its around 150.

Im using that card at the moment... works well.


so am I....sapphire 9600xt, cost $138 6 mos. ago. i know it's a bottleneck to the rest of my comp. but i can run anything. the only games i see my frames drop into the 30's with are AHII and doom 3 (in a real frag-fest)

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« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2005, 02:40:01 PM »
Remember that, according to skuzzy in some thread in here somewhere, AH uses different rendering paths that take advantage of newer generation card features for more advanced effects.  So while you may get almost the same framerates with a 9800 and an x800, chances are you're also seeing a slightly different and better image with the x800.  It's also been my experience (with a 6800GT) that with the newer vid cards you can turn on anti-aliasing which significantly improves image quality, and use the larger texture sizes which also has a dramatic effect on image quality.

3dfx learned the hard way that framerate isn't everything, and AH2 seems to prove it.  40 fps with a 4200 and 40 fps with an x850 or 7800gtx are not at all equal in image quality.  This is true almost regardless of what cpu you are using.
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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2005, 05:24:25 PM »
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.... It's also been my experience (with a 6800GT) that with the newer vid cards you can turn on anti-aliasing which significantly improves image quality, and use the larger texture sizes which also has a dramatic effect on image quality...


True enough, the overhead on my x850 allows me to crank things (AA) up a bit before I match the CPU limitations.  Just a balancing act.