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P-38J "Kwitcherpis'n" 370FG/402FS Almost done?
« on: July 17, 2005, 04:45:11 PM »
Hi all,

Here's another P-38J I'm planning to submit. I just like to throw this out to everyone to see if there's anything I'm missing, any suggestions, etc.

This particular skin feels almost like doing it from scratch since I've completeyl redone the panel lines from scratch, altered a bit of the metal wearing, rivet darkness/deepness, etc. Hope you all like it, and if there's any suggestions of change, I'm all ears =)

Closeup of the new panel lines and rivet detail


Nose-art view


Trying to recapture the angle of the profile Guppy was so kind to donate to me =)
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P-38J "Kwitcherpis'n" 370FG/402FS Almost done?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2005, 05:17:28 PM »
Hey you did it looks great Well im sure your going to say no but can i use your template :o i make my panel lines in ps8 and adobe ps 7 for every thing else i don't have ps anymore. so... :D


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P-38J "Kwitcherpis'n" 370FG/402FS Almost done?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2005, 08:01:04 PM »
is it weathered?  seems..."clean"  ...i may just be blind tho...

i like it tho  Looks Great!!  :aok
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2005, 08:39:24 PM »
Thanks Sky and Killn

Killn... yes, it's weathered, but I've went a lot more subtle than my Florida Cracker in just about everything... panel lines, rivets, weathering, etc are all a lot more "subtle". I dunno, just kept looking at the Florida Cracker and thought it was too "busy" in terms of details and weathering. Did I go too far the other direction?

Sky: What exactly are you asking for? I'd maybe be willing to share my panel lines, and possibly even my rivets and base paint, but as far as the shading, and special effects, that's what makes my P-38... well...  MY 38, and it's neat seeing differences between how Oboe does his, or Kev, or even thebest1 do thiers (I love checking out other skinner's work). I'm not trying to be difficult, and any help I can give, I'm more than happy to try to explain how I did things, but... when you work on something for hours and pour your heart into it, it becomes a little piece of yourself in which you don't want to give away. Maybe I'm just being self-centered.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2005, 09:42:23 PM »
not sure, wait for oboe or another skinner to look at it, just seems to "gleam" ...everything else looks great to me, just to spanking new.
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P-38J "Kwitcherpis'n" 370FG/402FS Almost done?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2005, 12:50:41 PM »
Just the panel lines if u have rivets without the shadow effect then rivets too thx

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2005, 03:59:37 PM »
Alright Sky.
Panel, Rivets, and Base paint on the way.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2005, 04:06:48 PM »
Thx alot!:eek:

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2005, 04:09:06 PM »
This may become my new favorite 38J skin. :aok
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P-38J "Kwitcherpis'n" 370FG/402FS Almost done?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2005, 04:19:11 PM »
gorgeous:eek:

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2005, 04:26:16 PM »
The wings look dirty compared to the rest of the plane. Get some oil and dirty on the booms.

It also looks rather dark, have you changed the materials.txt file?

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2005, 05:33:28 PM »
Yes raptor, I've altered my materials.txt file quite a bit. Here's mine

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0.250,0.250,0.250,Ambient
0.300,0.300,0.300,Diffuse
0.050,0.050,0.050,Emissive
0.900,0.900,0.950,Specular
8.200,Power
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In doing this, my aim was to get a more "metallic" feel from the glare. Generally metallic glares to me are pretty defined, but where they DO glare is very very bright. I tried to capture this by keeping ambient and diffuse close together (so the aircraft doesn't light up TOO much in certain lights), and the Specular as VERY bright to give that huge blazing glare metal has. I've also made it so that there's a little blue in that glare to kind of give a faux sky reflection.

The skin IS dark, purposefully. Even though I've altered the materials.txt, I always kind of thought the metals in metal skins seemed a little too light colored to me, however, I maybe have went a little too dark.

I like the ideas for the booms.. I'll see if I can dig up some "well used" p-38 pictures to get a good idea of where I can smudge things up.

Thanks for the comments guys =) I really try to learn from them where I can.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2005, 05:35:11 PM »
Around the 'chargers up top of the booms, and by the oil coolers further back, there would be some smudging and maybe some oil drippage.

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2005, 06:46:42 PM »
Well, that's 2 comments saying she looks too clean. I guess you all like "rode hard and put away wet" look?

I hope I didn't go too overboard... I stumbled across something I liked the look of (by screwing up something I was trying), and may have went too overboard on the weathering. As far as the carbon scoring, I had it there already, but now I've made it much much darker, as well as a bunch of other things. Did I go too far?



Here's a good shot of the carbon scoring from the exhaust on the booms and tail fins. Also, my footprints around the canopy have been lightened per Texmurph's suggestion

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39th FS "Cobra In The Clouds"

I'm basically here to lower the 39th's score :P