Author Topic: So what will the P47N be all about? (Read 1263 times)

Furball · « **Reply #30 on:** July 19, 2005, 05:05:07 PM »

oh and karnak, before you say, that is not a comment on my ability, it is more of an oberservation on the abilities of *some* of the people that fly the G-10.

i am distinctly average in it, and unable to hit anything from further than 20 yards with the spud gun.

yayyyy · « **Reply #31 on:** July 19, 2005, 05:36:12 PM »

my dad flys a p47n for the navy

Messiah · « **Reply #32 on:** July 19, 2005, 05:41:34 PM »

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Westy · « **Reply #33 on:** July 19, 2005, 06:41:39 PM »

"my dad flys a p47n for the navy"

and his name was Admiral Biggus Dickus right?

Karnak · « **Reply #34 on:** July 19, 2005, 07:01:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
i am distinctly average in it, and unable to hit anything from further than 20 yards with the spud gun.

et tu?

AmRaaM · « **Reply #35 on:** July 19, 2005, 07:10:48 PM »

p47 stuff....

http://p47pilots.com

real pilot stories by association members.

Morpheus · « **Reply #36 on:** July 19, 2005, 08:48:46 PM »

I dont see it as a

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monster

IMO a tempest would hand this

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monster

its ass.

IMO the tempest is the biggest baddest

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monster

of em all.

Widewing · « **Reply #37 on:** July 20, 2005, 12:43:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Morpheus

IMO a tempest would hand this its ass.

IMO the tempest is the biggest baddest of em all.

Where the Tempest excels, down in the weeds, the P-47N should be at a disadvantage, but it's not as lopsided as one might think.

However, where the P-47N excels, the Tempest is a relative dog. Having tested every fighter at 20k, the Tempest is only average up that high. Moreover, the Tempest has a big hole in its performance prior to shifting to high blower.

However, down below 5k with equal pilots, the Tempest will win most of the fights.

Go up to 20k and there's quite a few fighters that will put a beating on the Tempest.

Typical acceleration times from 200 to 300 mph at 20k show the Tempest well behind many fighters:

Bf 109G-10 28.28 seconds
F4U-4: 28.59 seconds
SpitXIV: 28.90 seconds
P-38J: 29.57 seconds
Fw 190D-9: 30.78 seconds
P47D-40: 31.42 seconds
P-47D-25: 32.77 second
P-51D: 34.01 seconds
SpitIX: 34.41 seconds
P-38G: 38.78 seconds
Tempest: 39.63 seconds
La-7: 40.10 seconds
Ki-84: 41.97 seconds

There are several more that do considerably better than the Tempest, including the P-38L, 109G-6, 109G-2, P-51B, P-47D-11, Ta 152 and so on.

Climb rates closely follow acceleration rates.

So yeah, the Tempest is a monster down low, but only down low.
Should a Tempest meet a P-47N at 20k or higher (pilots being equal), my suggestion would be that the Tempest pilot race for the deck and hope the Jug follows.

My regards,

Widewing

Furball · « **Reply #38 on:** July 20, 2005, 01:50:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
et tu?

moyen

Meatwad · « **Reply #39 on:** July 20, 2005, 09:08:43 AM »

Allied Conspiracy Theroy sounds like something that came out of WW2OL

slimm50 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2005, 09:28:45 AM »

Heh, if ya want to reeely test yer skill as a pilit: on yer first try in it, when it finally come out, just load that Bad Boy (the P47N, that is) up to the max with bombs and rockets and ammo and fuel, stomp down on the brakes, firewall the throttle, hit WEP, hold brakes till the rpms max out, release brakes, then see if you can get it in the air without crashing. I usually end up fishtailin down th runway and ripping at least one strut off on the first couple of attempts.

whels · « **Reply #41 on:** July 20, 2005, 10:27:24 AM »

talking about 25% fuel + DTs.

i dont think any WW@ pilot would upped to do combat with less then full tanks + or - the DTs.

i think when we hit takeoff, our planes shouldnt be allowed to go with less than 75% fuel onboard, DTs optional. its the only way to rid the gamer option of 25% + DT. hard code it no less then 75% fuel internal.

or no DTs if u chose below 75% internal.

whels

Grits · « **Reply #42 on:** July 20, 2005, 11:22:17 AM »

I dont believe any real combat plane leaving for a combat mission (not a ferry flight) would ever leave without 100% internal fuel. I think a 75% minimum for AH would be a decent compromise. BTW, I take off with 100% in all planes except the P-38L, P-51's, and Mossie.

bozon · « **Reply #43 on:** July 20, 2005, 12:49:14 PM »

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I dont believe any real combat plane leaving for a combat mission (not a ferry flight) would ever leave without 100% internal fuel.

You'd be suprised.

Bozon

Grits · « **Reply #44 on:** July 20, 2005, 01:26:49 PM »

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Originally posted by bozon
You'd be suprised.

I doubt that, but if you have some info on fuel loadouts for cambat sorties I'd like to hear what circumstances they wouldnt take 100% fuel. Why would you risk unforseen events that might cause you to extend your mission and result in you not making it back? I'd rather be a bit heavy than out of fuel alltogether.