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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2005, 10:45:08 AM »
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I am not saying crash the plane but hell ya gotta fly the dam thing, not let it sit quietly in a museum slowly corroding away, cause at some point in the future its going to just fall apart even if it just sits there.  


I agree that warbirds should be flown.  But 109's are rare, they should keep as many of them as possible for future generations to wonder upon.
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2005, 11:26:00 AM »
If I'd rebuilt it I know the temptation to fly it would be too great but originals belong in museums and only reproductions belong in the air.
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2005, 03:54:00 PM »
I've had the fortune of seeing some 24 Spitfires in the air, - at the same time.
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Aren't there some 109's being rebuilt by now? (new)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2005, 08:45:17 PM »
Maybe they shoulda had a real pilot fly ;)

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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2005, 09:32:43 PM »
There are very few original warbirds left.

 A good example is "Yellow 13".  She is an original airframe and engine.  They were intact enough that it needed to be cleaned up and a few parts rebuilt.  The majority of the airframe is original.

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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2005, 09:39:46 PM »
That fuselage certainly looks rebuildable. I wouldn't write it off totally. If they can't afford to do it they need to transfer it to someone who can. I've seen worse wrecks go back to the air and in the air is where it belongs. A scale 1 to 1 static model could be made to mount on a pylon for those like pongo to look at. Static display does not require a real airframe.
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2005, 07:01:06 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2005, 11:27:14 PM »
Tell ya what PISS OFF!

You guys are not the ones putting up a freaking dime to keep these original aircraft flying.  The reason I say this, is because the people that do put ORIGINAL warbirds back in the air are not out there asking for handouts.

Flat out, there are VERY few original aircraft flying today, FLying Heritage has several, with more on the way, there are a few others that are also doing this same level of restoration, but VERY few.  

So tell ya what, the next time you seem to think that it is you're right to tell an a/c owner that it isn't right for them to fly their a/c, pony up the 2 mil and MUCH more in most cases that it takes to restore a flying warbird.
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2005, 01:28:03 AM »
Lick me.
The effort in rebuilding one of a kind historical artifacts is appreciated.
The vanity in playing flyboy in it and destroying it is silly.
More true for glacier girl then  most.
I contributed to the rebuild, I get a say. Park the thing

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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2005, 07:30:16 AM »
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Lick me.
The effort in rebuilding one of a kind historical artifacts is appreciated.
The vanity in playing flyboy in it and destroying it is silly.
More true for glacier girl then  most.
I contributed to the rebuild, I get a say. Park the thing


It's a tough argument. I can see both sides. I love to see them fly, but it makes me sick to see one go down.... sometimes taking a pretty great guy (Jeffery Ethel) with it.
The quality of most static displays is such that you couldn't fly them without a hugh capital outlay..... most flying examples are much more beautiful. Oh well... I'm not even sure what I'm babbling about.

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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2005, 08:07:36 AM »
Just very very frustrating when u have a good flying restored plane not allowed to fly.
Think about the difference saying" i saw on static in a museum" or i "wtf omg i saw one for real and flying"  I bet the impression is something we should all deserve .
they belong in the air.

just don't think about the crashing.

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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2005, 09:22:26 AM »
Bodhi knows of what he speaks Pongo

do you restore warbirds for a living too Pongo?

why would anyone build a plane and not fly it? is it truly an "aircraft" if it cannot get into the air?
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2005, 04:32:37 PM »
Park 'em.  

Fly them all into the earth and what will happen?  Better to have some static but flyable than all turned into Coors cans.  I'd much rather look at them on the ground than look at them in a book.

And no one has more say so than the children who would one day like to see them whole, intact and not just hearing about them from daddy.
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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2005, 08:10:15 PM »
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Bodhi knows of what he speaks Pongo

do you restore warbirds for a living too Pongo?

why would anyone build a plane and not fly it? is it truly an "aircraft" if it cannot get into the air?


To preserve it as a historical arifact.
Have we ruled then that only people who rebuild aircraft for a living can have an opinion on thier use.
I contributed cash to the rebuilding of Glacier Girl. I thought that might give me some small amount of opinion on why it should be rebuilt.

Dont kid yourself. They are not rebuilt so that people can see them fly. They are rebuilt so that people can fly them.
Ya If I had the mony I would have some built for me too and I would fly them. But its not to do with freeing them from the ground so they can really be aircraft again or any such crap. Its just pure greed and like every other clown thats flying one.

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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2005, 10:20:42 PM »
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Its just pure greed and like every other clown thats flying one.


Greed? Is that because it's so profitable to own, restore,  maintain, and fly a warbird? I thought it was an expensive, money losing effort. Silly me.

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