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Offline rpm

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« on: July 29, 2005, 11:11:30 AM »
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I'm not a huge fan of Tucker Carlson, but he's got this one nailed.
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CARLSON: So, it’s a revenue enhancer.  It’s a way for cities and towns to get more money out of people, then.  

MCKEON:  Nothing to do with revenue.  The fine is between $100 to $250 for the second offense.  But it’s never about that.  It’s about people hopefully operating their vehicles in a more responsible fashion.  

CARLSON: Don’t you think, in an age where America is under attack by al Qaida, that members of our law enforcement community ought to be spending their time sort of worrying about, say, protecting New Jersey’s chemical plants, rather than worried about someone lighting up a Marlboro in traffic?  

MCKEON: You know, are there more important things for everybody to worry about?  You know, of course they are.  

CARLSON: I’m not talking about everybody.  I’m talking about police officers, who are, as we often hear, correctly, the front line in our defense against terror.  This is not everybody.  These are the people who are protecting us from getting killed.  Shouldn’t they be trying to protect us from getting killed, rather than bothering someone about having a cigarette?

MCKEON: I know you’re too sharp to suggest that people should be able to speed now because we have things going on around the world that are much more serious.  

I mean, this has to do with local police officers and what they do in enforcing traffic safety.  And this is just a secondary offense that I think makes sense.  

CARLSON:  I just want to ask you one final question.  I want to get you concede that what is this really about is the fact you don’t like smoking.

A lot of people don’t like smoking.  I’m not saying people ought to like smoking.  But this is taking a minority group in America, a group of people who is very unpopular, by virtue of what they do, and piling on, pounding them, extracting more money from them, regulating them, because you can, because no one likes cigarette smokers.  That’s really what is happening.

MCKEON:  Yes, well, if you ask me what my opinion is about smoking and relative to its health effects, and...

CARLSON:  Right.  I’m sure you’re against smoking.

MCKEON:  I’m against it without question.  But this has really nothing to do with being anti-smoking.
Riiiiight.
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2005, 11:18:27 AM »
Tucker is a publicity seeking arse...

That aside..anyone with half a brain could debunk that stupid law.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2005, 11:22:15 AM »
If there are cities that are banning cellphones in cars because it distracts from driving, it stands to reason that smoking, or eating, or any number of other activities will soon be banned as well.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2005, 11:23:24 AM »
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Tucker is a publicity seeking arse...

That aside..anyone with half a brain could debunk that stupid law.
Perhaps I didn't state my true opinion of him when I said I wasn't a huge fan. He's a publicity seeking arse, but correct in this instance.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2005, 11:38:24 AM »
I dont think you can compare smoking in a car to talking on a cell phone. Most smokers i know smoke, like they breath, it's not distracting to them at all.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2005, 11:41:42 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2005, 11:43:45 AM »
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If there are cities that are banning cellphones in cars because it distracts from driving, it stands to reason that smoking, or eating, or any number of other activities will soon be banned as well.


We can all look forward to that glorious day when you no longer drive your car at all. Instead, you enter, speak the address to the ever polite and attentive computer and the computer will safely and calmly drive you to your destination.

If we could just take humans out of all these human interactions.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2005, 11:44:52 AM »
I'd like to see the study showing smoking related accident rates. Seems to be a pretty clear revenue grab. Smokers are addicts. They will smoke even after an initial warning. $100 - $250 a pop, after pop after pop. Another good excuse to pull somebody over and look for anything else that may generate some $$$.

Tucker is a smarmy hugahunk for sure, but on target here, IMO.

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2005, 11:52:54 AM »
after reading over the articles i could find in google...hmmm everybody in the NJ govt. that is supporting this is a Democrat...gee didn't see that coming from the Government should regulate and control every aspect of your life people.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2005, 11:55:59 AM »
#1 cause of distracted while driving.. women. Yapping away at yah while inside the damn car.. or walking in view of a public road with a nice bellybutton and a great luggage rack.
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Offline Mickey1992

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2005, 12:26:12 PM »
I am all for the anti-smoking laws in public places that are being enacted in big cities, but this smoking ban in the automobile is just stupid.

I would much rather see more people get tickets for flicking cigarette butts out the car window.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 12:42:55 PM »
Maybe before trying to get people for flicking cigarette butts out the window they could focus on people flicking car batteries, tires, fast food wrappers, papers, etc.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2005, 01:48:07 PM »
Yup, came into work today to find a v-8 motor blocking our garage.

But yet I'm not allowed to smoke a cigarette while driving, in NJ?
As a Smoker, I don't ever flick my butt out the window ( cigarette butt) And I don't throw any paper,trash, etc. out the window.

I don't care who dislikes cigarette smoke, I think this is insanely stupid. I have a 35-45 minute drive to work everyday and see some really bizzarre things going on in cars while driving, from eating AND talking on the cell while trying to drive AND shift!

I've seen a girl go up the curb and on the grass while aplying eyeliner, I've sen a lady cross 3 lanes without a turn signal OR looking because her HUGH beanie baby collection covered the entire rear window, and the side windows were covered with those suction cup cardboard signs that read " Honk If you like Beanie babies" and "I brake for Beanie Babies"

I've seen a guy dump his Harley because he "thought" the car wasn't going to stop at the stop sign ( car stopped, had them spinning hubcaps)  Hard to judge if the cars stopping with those on.  


I see some pretty stupid stuff people do in cars while driving, but never think seeing someone smoking in a car is so life threating it needs a law to stop it.

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Maybe before trying to get people for flicking cigarette butts out the window they could focus on people flicking car batteries, tires, fast food wrappers, papers, etc.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2005, 01:50:24 PM »
Sssh. Hush now. The Government will do what's best for you. Just do what nanny tells you.


There appetite of folks that want you to do what they say and live as they tell you to live is never satiated. They will keep coming at you and telling you what to do forever.
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2005, 01:55:23 PM »
Pretty soon you won't be able to scratch your b*^@s while driving.
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