Americans - anyone saw this?

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Zwerg
So much blood thirst...
The shape of the things to come...

 I don't think that a "journalist" filming executions, fingers, hands and heads being cut off and then this films appear in the Western market for some perverts deserves anything else. There are some things that should not be turned into business.

Babitskiy was already caught once with such "materials" in 1999 or 2000 IIRC. He's a personal friend of terrorist commanders

It's well-known that a fear of death from a bayonet is a serious argument to surrender for that pseudo-Moslims.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by cpxxx
I see nothing wrong with the article. Basayev condemms himself in his own words.

He admits being part of the Beslan massacre and being a terrorist. He has no apology for the death of the children.

As far as I'm concerned the article is a good example of how the press can expose evil people for what they are.

It does him no favours whatsoever.

Some of you people are quick to sell your freedom because you don't like what other people say.  Try and remember this. If the government controls what the the press says. They control what what you say and what you think.  Freedom of the press is simply freedom of speech.

 

Certainly no room for government-controlled terrorism.  

But don't worry Boroda, Putin is gradually retracting your freedoms. Soon it won't be long before you will be back under state control.  You certainly will not be allowed to post to an American Bulletin Board. Too risky, you might get the wrong ideas.

Needed to be repeated... SPOT ON SIR.

[storch]

the freedom of the the press is indispensible to a free people.  it is up to the discerning reader to first of all consider the source of any news item and then search for the opposing view on any issue.  the truth of the issue will often be found somewhere in the middle.  if our founding fathers considered this to be an important enough issue as to be included in our bill of rights and ours is the most successful and most equitable method of governing a great people I believe others would do well to emulating our successful system instead of finding fault with it. while i will concede that ours is not a perfect system, our system is still better than anyone elses.  thanks for your concern though.

[mosgood]

Originally posted by storch
the freedom of the the press is indispensible to a free people.  it is up to the discerning reader to first of all consider the source of any news item and then search for the opposing view on any issue.  the truth of the issue will often be found somewhere in the middle.  if our founding fathers considered this to be an important enough issue as to be included in our bill of rights and ours is the most successful and most equitable method of governing a great people I believe others would do well to emulating our successful system instead of finding fault with it. while i will concede that ours is not a perfect system, our system is still better than anyone elses.  thanks for your concern though.

Ya I'm for Free Speech as well,  but it's got to the point were the press is actually helping terrorists get their propaganda and messages out.  How many heads do you think would have been taken if terrorist thought that no one would now about it because the press wouldn't help promote their actions?

This guy Basayev did the interview BECAUSE he wanted to be heard.... and the press knew it would be a hot story (money motivated) and did it.

[lazs2]

so... how will the new russian communism deal with the internet?  Will boroda be able to post here from behind his new iron curtain (to keep westerners from pouring in)?

freedom is just to dangerous for people to think they can have.

lazs

[culero]

Boroda -

I completely understand and sympathize with your outrage regarding this. As you correctly point out, something similar featuring OBL would make me feel the same way.

That said, there's merit in what cpxxx wrote. While this interview being broadcast allowed this terrorist to speak his piece to the public, it also exposed his confession to his terrorist actions and intentions.

The viewing public may both be outraged, as we are, or inspired to admire this person, if they are sympathizers. That's the "sword cuts both ways" aspect of completely open and unrestricted journalism. So long as journalists report accurately what their investigation reveals, people may see the facts and decide for themselves what the meaning is.

I would hope that the real benefit might be that folks who aren't in either camp (those that despise this guy or those that admire him), who previously weren't aware of him, might be repulsed and caused to revile this person and his goals by seeing this report.

Knowledge is power. Just as a wise person once advised that if you like sausage, don't watch it being made, sometimes we have to accept that the truth may in some instances be ugly. This report exposed some truth. More people now know that this man is admittedly a terrorist. Let's hope we can rely upon people drawing the correct conclusions from that knowledge.

Don't mistake me here. Like you, I cannot avoid being angry when thinking about a man like this reporter, who can witness the things he's reported and still willingly continue to maintain relationships that allow him to see more. Like Funked, I'm prompted to think he should be doing something to eliminate the source rather than publicize it. But its also fair to point out that by doing what he's doing, we're allowed to have knowledge of the enemy we might not otherwise have.

The bottom line is that truth is truth, and its not always pretty. But, there's good reason to argue that pretty or not, its best to know the truth. That's why freedom of the press is an important, while not always pleasant, component of our lives.

culero