Film: Bird Causes Crash

[detch01]

Likely a Bae Hawk at the NATO training facility in NewFoundland.



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[BigR]

This is just a guess, but I believe computer voices are usually Females or Voices with accents because people pay more attention than they would if it was an ordinary voice.  When they originally designed the voices for these planes they used Females voices because the men flying the planes responded to them better. Also, at the time it was unusual to hear a woman’s voice over the radio, so when you heard it, you paid attention. I imagine now that women are common place in communications they use a British voice because it is not common place.

Oh and if im totally wrong and someone knows the real reason, feel free to flame me.

[Enduro]

I heard the same explanation, BigR.

PETA would say that the plane caused this crash.  I'm sure the investigation is underway...

[AKH]

Nope -  Hawks are made by British Aerospace - that's why the voice alarm has a British accent  

It sounds like the actor Patrick Allen, who is (in)famous for his TV appearances and voice-overs (IMDB).   Many Brits will recall Allen from the original Barratt Homes advert when "he" parachutes from the corporate helicopter. He also did the apocalyptic voice-over in Frankie Goes to Hollywood's single "Two Tribes" during the 1980s.  Fitting.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Widewing
I think it was a Navy T-45 Goshawk.

My regards,

Widewing

Canadian Air Force Hawk trainer.



ack-ack

[Dinan]

The plane here is a BA Hawk T1 - this happened over a year ago they were practicing touch and gos at cold lake, alberta when the bird hit - the pilot ended up with broken legs a broken pelvis and damaged vertibrae.

[Tails]

Definately falls into the catagory of 'Coulda been worse'.

I wish my instructor from 147 school was still at said school. He had a video of what an Osprey (the bird, not the helicopter with an indentity crisis) can do to a Cessna's windshield.

Lets just say, salsa on the passenger's seat, and no need for air conditioning for the remainder of the flight. Birds are nasty thing when they get into a fight with a plane going several orders faster than them.

[Wolfala]

I had a personal meeting with a Seagull over the statue of liberty back around Easter with my dad in the right seat. We were in a Mooney 201J doing about 160 down the hudson. Only saw it for a brief moment like in the video. Poor bastard impacted the left wing just above the stall fence. Left a nice greese stain, but there was no impact damage or even so much as a dent.

Might as well be Mooney iron works far as i'm concerned.

Wolf

[Enduro]

Originally posted by Wolfala

Might as well be Mooney iron works far as i'm concerned.

Wolf

I'm sure the bird would agree.

[Tails]

You got lucky. I'm going to see if I cant 'liberate' a picture of a T-38 that set infront of our airfield ops building for some four months, due to a basketball-sized hole that a pigeon left

[AWwsky]

SEEKER,

Canadians for the most part don't sound like Brits.  They sound much the same as Americans, only they constantly say "hey" which sounds like they are saying the letter A.  Of course there are the French (cough) Canadians, but they don't count. I know lots of Canadians from all over Canada and I have only heard a Canadian with a British accent once (he was British before becoming a Canadian citizen).  Live amoungst the Brits for a year, you'll be able to understand everything they say. Just don't laugh at them if ask if you want to go have a studmuffin with them or they tell you to put your rubbers on because it's raining outside.  If you haven't guessed it or know it already, a studmuffin is a cigarette and rubbers are rain boots.  They actually have differnt spelling for tire.  A tire to us is what we put on our cars but to Brits, it means they are getting tired.  They spell tire (wheels), tyre..  

As for the "what would a yank be doing in a Jaguar", that's simple enough to answer.  It's called the "Foreign Pilot Exchange Program".  We have this with a few different countries, most notably Germany.

BigR,

Yes, fighter planes in the US use female voices.  Still do.  We call it *****ing Betty.  They won't change anytime soon though do to cost.  I don't recall how much was paid for just one recording of the voice, but you could buy a couple of houses for just a single recording.  There's more that goes into it then just the voice, such as incorperation into the hardware.  It wasn't a digital recording, but it may be in the future.

The warnings are straight forward and to the point.  Such as "Altitude, Altiude" or "Pull up, Pull up" or "Bingo, Bingo".  Nothing is drawn out like you heard in this footage.  There are also alerts that are by an audible alarm and associated lights with no *****ing Betty, other then "Warning, Warning" which causes the pilot to take a look around the cockpit to find out what light is on and what system is faulty.

Oh, if you watch and listen to the video really close at the end, you can hear the pilot grunt in discomfort as the seat starts leaving the jet and you can see the flare from the motor as the seat completely leaves.  

Dinan,
Which pilot ended up injured, the instructor of the student?  Judging by the video, I'd have to say the student..

[Charge]

May 18, 2004


REGINA (SNN) -- The military jet trainer that crashed near Moose Jaw Friday afternoon might have been brought down by a bird, the commander of the Canadian Forces' 15 Wing said Monday.

"What's being looked at is a bird strike -- the ingestion by the engine of a bird," Col. Alain Boyer said. "That's what the No. 1 theory is right now. That would explain the loss of thrust from the engine."

Canadian Forces Capt. John Hutt, the instructor aboard the Hawk trainer, and the student, flight Lieut. Ed Morris of Britain's Royal Air Force, both ejected at about 300 meters.

Morris was unhurt and was back at the base Friday night, but Hutt is in Saskatoon's Royal University Hospital with a broken leg, Boyer said Monday. "He was operated on last night."

Investigating the crash is a team of about 10 people, including personnel from the Canadian Forces Directorate of Flight Safety, the Aerospace Engineering and Test Establishment at Cold Lake, Alta., and specialists in medicine and safety systems.

15 Wing's 19 remaining Hawk aircraft were briefly grounded, but were back in service Monday, said Boyer.

The loss of the Hawk jet will not affect the base's training schedule because losses through attrition were built into the original order for aircraft, he added.

The crash of the CT-155 Hawk occurred late Friday afternoon as the aircraft was doing "touch-and-go" landings. In these, a crew practises landings by lining up on a runway, reducing speed and altitude until it is just above the runway, then applying power, gaining altitude and climbing away.

The aircraft crashed about two kilometres northwest of the base, which itself is located south of Moose Jaw's southern city limits.

The Hawk is used for advanced jet pilot training under the NATO Flight Training in Canada program at 15 Wing, which trains pilots from the United Kingdom, Denmark, Italy, Hungary and Singapore as well as Canada.

The plane: http://ipmslondon.tripod.com/referencearticles/id33.html

-C+

[REP0MAN]

Here Ya Go, Click!

I saw this a few weeks ago. Enjoy

[Halo]

Dumb question from non pilot:  Was there never a thought of ditching or even landing?  If bird hit on approach, would think that would be first choice.  If bird hit on go-around, maybe not.  

It's just that on touch and go's, wouldn't the emphasis on landings make successful recovery from a bird strike more likely?

[Wolfala]

If the ITT exceeds limits, which at 660 * it was way over limits, there is a imminent fire danger. Magnesium once it starts burning you cannot put out - and by the time you land on the ground, usually the entire aircraft is engulfed. Punching out was the correct decision.

Wolf