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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2005, 09:23:04 AM »
Tonto to Lone Ranger:
"Got any indian in you?"
LR: "No, why do you ask?"
Tonto: "Want some?"
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2005, 09:35:00 AM »
none in my blood, every year tho i'll make an effort to attend a powwow on the circuit. always an oustanding day, buffalo burgers and all that tribal chanting.

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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2005, 09:38:18 AM »
1/8th Lakota Sioux, via my great grandmother on my father's side.

Ho mataquiasi!
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Offline Charon

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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2005, 10:06:15 AM »
It's rumored that there is some small percentage of Cherokee at the great, great, great level.

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Offline Raider179

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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2005, 10:23:32 AM »
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Cherokee is the most widely recognized name of indian names. Coincidence? ;)

Here is one for you that rarely folks admit being "part"...is Muckleshoot.  The Muckleshoots are widely known in this area for the trash in the front yard being higher than the houses they live in.


Ummm Seminole is right up there at the top...

So are the Navajo, Cheyenne, and Apache...
Saying 1 is more recongnized than the other is a stretch. Most who claim Cherokee are in fact not. And as soon as I hear claims of being a Cherokee I become immediately suspicious of it.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2005, 10:24:16 AM »
well i AM 1/8 cherokee.

fathers grandmother was 100% Cherokee from oklahoma.
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2005, 10:25:14 AM »
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none in my blood, every year tho i'll make an effort to attend a powwow on the circuit. always an oustanding day, buffalo burgers and all that tribal chanting.



You know Indians didn't really have pow-wows back in the day, and they were created to make money. Want to say in the 1950's but will have to check further. Just a bit of little known info for you guys. :)

Still fun to watch and attend though.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2005, 01:37:06 PM »
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You know Indians didn't really have pow-wows back in the day, and they were created to make money. Want to say in the 1950's but will have to check further. Just a bit of little known info for you guys. :)

Still fun to watch and attend though.


We took their land..

We took their ancestors lives..

Why not make money off of keeping a tradition alive?
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2005, 02:46:14 PM »
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We took their land..

We took their ancestors lives..

Why not make money off of keeping a tradition alive?


Thats just it, its not tradition. lol

It supports their culture and I am all for it. But just thought it was an interesting fact that not many know. Everyone assumes the Indians have always had Pow-wows, when in fact they are a relatively recent invention by them to generate money.
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2005, 05:14:36 PM »
I work in the casino gaming industry, and i see know alot of the different people of different tribes that do the convention circut.

Yes Rip Muchleshoot is one of our big and very 1st customers.
the Ticket in Ticket out business in casinos stated up there in WA state.  they were the 1st.  
 
As you meet the peoples of all the different tribes the Cherokee are very very large tribe!(many tribes/clans were some what assimilated into the cherokee nation.
Cherokee nation is  not the biggest.  The largest tribe by numbers and members are (brain fart) a western tribe and they dont yet have a casino or a gaming commision , I wanna say the Navajo  (not posative)  im almost posative the Apache have a few casinos.

But here in Western NC  you have the one casino in NC which is Harrahs (managed) but cherokee owned.  All the casinos in OK are cherokee!  

the cherokee had at one time the largest tribe per White Euro. invasion. here are som cherokee links to read on.

prior to  euro invasion - http://cherokeehistory.com/original.gif

some good reads for those interested....

http://cherokeehistory.com/

because im from NC - http://www.cherokee-nc.com/

Btw supposedly along the lines on my family i got s drip of blood from (i cant spell it) saquaguwa - the chick who helped lewis and clark.

but every native american nation/tribe or clan deserves all of our ut most repect!
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2005, 09:48:23 PM »
Apache's in AZ do have at least one casino. The tohono o'odom (formerly known as yaqui) have a couple in Tucson and a third just south.

I believe the Navajo and Hopi in the NE part of the state do not have any.
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2005, 10:07:52 PM »
To say that gatherings are a recent phenomenon is not completely accurate.  Powwow celebrations have changed over recent years, but so have county fairs.

The powwow can be traced among plains Indian tribes to the celebration of a sucessful hunt.  

Dancing and tribal ritual were outlawed in the late 1800's and ban law was lifted in 1933.  Kinda tough to have major gatherings when participation is rewarded with jail time.

In 1933 the celebrations came out from underground observances, but the great depression stifled any growth in the celebration.

Returning WW II veterans were welcomed with Powwow celebrations.

Growth has occured since.

Maternal grandmother was full blooded Pima.  Grandad, who is a red haired Irishman, claims he met her while looking for the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine in the Superstitions.  He always called her his treasure.  She died of diabetes in '95.
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2005, 10:14:47 PM »
Grandmother was Cherokee.
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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2005, 10:21:16 PM »
Like i said every Native American / Indian or what ever they choose to be called (active with in there're tribe or not) get nothing but my sincerest heart felt respect.

ho

most of us people who were raised in American schools (not indain or native school on a RES.)   never learned the real histories of any tribes.  we learned a few names and where they lived (at times) and a few things that made then unique.   but never the REAL history!   Thats for you to find on your own....


Fact the first slaves in the USA were native Americans!!! (lot cheaper to get em there then bring em with you or buy em)



there is soo  much more that the natives know then we(anglo/euro/what ever)   will ever know.



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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2005, 03:23:41 AM »
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