Smoking

[AKDejaVu]

She insisted that some people would be offended by the fact that I smoked in my own house.

BTW... I do believe you may be mistating things a bit here.  She said people would be offended that you smoked in your house, or that they would find the odor offensive?  One is people prying.. they other is people deciding what house they want to buy.

AKDejaVu

[Gadfly]

Sorry, Deja, you in no way shape or form have to tell someone that you smoked in your house, or fornicated or drank.  Sturctural defects and repairs yes, habits no.

Of course, if you smoke in your house they can tell instantly, so it is moot.  I smoke up to 3 packs a day, but never in the house or office(work office, not my computer room), or in anyone else's car, home or place of business('cept bars, that is what they are for).

[ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: Gadfly ]

[gavor]

Ive smoked for 8 years. I've never smoked in MY house because i dislike the lingering smell + my gf would kill me  . If I go to someones house and they smoke inside I will happily smoke with them, otherwise I prefer smoking outside.

If you dont like whats happening in the US 1776, you should try Australia. The only indoor public places you are allowed to smoke anymore are pubs or clubs. Even these places have non-smoking areas. Just lately there has been talk of banning smoking in these places too and making all smokers go outside. I'm a bit up in the air about this one. I can see the good points but I know how much it would piss me off. I go to the pub to get away, to have a cig and a beer. Overall it doesnt really worry me though cos i do the bulk of my smoking at home.

[1776]

What she implied was that I had no right to use the very house I paid for, the very house I improved over the years, to my own likings.  It is in her mind as communicated in her comment that I was to maintain the house for her benefit and her clients benefit for the last 7 years.

I mean how arrogent can ya get!!  That is why she is an idiot.  She doesn't understand that people are different and have different life styles. Her judgment and poor people relations will soon get her out of a job if she keeps practicing in such a mannor.

[Horn]

Originally posted by Udie:


 There's no threat to public health because somebody smoked in a house and then put the house on the market.

There's no threat to puiblic health if somebody commits suicide, dies violently or has AIDS, yet until recently, in our state, these situations had to be disclosed to the prospective buyers.

just sayin <tm>

dh

[Udie]

Originally posted by Horn:


There's no threat to puiblic health if somebody commits suicide, dies violently or has AIDS, yet until recently, in our state, these situations had to be disclosed to the prospective buyers.

just sayin <tm>

dh

 smoking has nothing to do with AIDS, suicide or violence, unless you consider smoking slow suicide.  I don't know if you have to even notify about those here in Texas.  I can see having to notify about violent death and maybe suicide, but not AIDS (unless it mutates to be airborn).  They have nothing to do with the structural/mechanical safety or stability of the house.  Smoke smell is no problem to get rid of with new paint and carpet.

[Horn]

Originally posted by Udie:



 smoking has nothing to do with AIDS, suicide or violence, unless you consider smoking slow suicide.  I don't know if you have to even notify about those here in Texas.  I can see having to notify about violent death and maybe suicide, but not AIDS (unless it mutates to be airborn)

I agree totally. But it has everything to do with the perceived market value of the home.

dh
(she just handled it crudely)

[1776]

Look guys, this thread has nothing to do with smoking or not smoking.  It has to do with how people react to other peoples lifestyle.  My second post about non-smokers being child abusers shoud have clearly made the point.

Is it so hard in today's society to let people have choice?  Geez, I mean, is it now unreasonable to do what you do without getting permission from those that are arrogent and self appointed enough to proclaim what is best for us peasants?

Talk about intolerance, I saw it in human flesh today!!

[ 12-18-2001: Message edited by: 1776 ]

[easymo]

I have a theory about this.  I think the surgeon generals warning on smokes causes allergies, nausea, so  forth. Through out my boyhood.  And as a young man.  I never once heard a complaint.  As soon as the roadkill PC police thing started.  All of a sudden people became afflicted.  It must have it been the warnings that did it.

[AKDejaVu]

Sorry, Deja, you in no way shape or form have to tell someone that you smoked in your house, or fornicated or drank. Sturctural defects and repairs yes, habits no.

Sorry... but you are differentiating between what you have to tell someone and what a realtor has to tell them.  The whole point is moot anyways because anyone that cares is going to notice anyways.

And there is a big difference between 2 of the 3... of course depending on how sloppy your sex is.  Smoke will actually cause damage to paint, carpet and curtains.  The other two only stand the possibility of damaging paint, carpet or curtains.

A realtor, who sells homes for people, can't figure out why someone would risk devaluing their home.  That is hardly an unusual reaction.  The realtor tells someone that because of his smoking, people may not like the home.  Then this is what we get back from the smoker.

TO ALL SMOKERS:  SMOKING MAKES YOUR HOME SMELL BAD.  SMOKING MAKES YOUR CAR SMELL BAD.  SMOKING MAKES YOUR CLOTHES SMELL BAD.

AKDejaVu

[1776]

One more time.  No one has the right to tell anyone how to use their property.  Only the society has that right and that has to be through lawful means.  

Isn't anyone out there upset that we accept some of this PC and don't question it?

I for one am through putting up with this kinda BS and am going to be much more out spoken when a situation like today arises.

Through my life I have always tried to be a gentleman and will continue that same course.

However, when I see this type of arrogence I will point it out directly without sugar coating in the future.  I don't think it is unreasonable for others to show a little respect for me if they wish the same from me!!

[Fatty]

Would you rather she have stated more politely that smoking in the house may decrease the value of the house, because some people do not like the smell of it, or should she have said nothing at all and let it go, ignoring her job to get the most possible for your house?

Or are you implying somehow that people who don't want to buy the house if it smells like cigarette smoke are somehow telling you how to live?

[1776]

Read the post just above yours.  It is clear and has no hidden meanings.

[Animal]

I used to smoke for a while, and my mother smoked for almost twenty years. I have never entered a home that I can notice someone was smoking in it (unless there IS someone smoking in the couch)
Houses here are made completly out of concrete, maybe the materials used there absorb the smell and tar?

This is outrageous!!

<throws hands and legs in the air in total frustration>

[Fatty]

It's not clear, I'm still not sure what you're objecting to.  That someone might not want to purchase the house?  The manner in which she informed you of that?

Animal, pretty much any fabric will absorb the smoke and the smell, though it's likely if you were around it for 20 years you wouldn't notice it as much.