Author Topic: Mossie (AAR and question).... (Read 835 times)

thrila · « **Reply #15 on:** August 27, 2005, 04:38:13 PM »

Dude what is with your hostitlity? Get out of this thread.

Vad · « **Reply #16 on:** August 27, 2005, 04:43:31 PM »

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Originally posted by thrila
Dude what is with your hostitlity? Get out of this thread.

Sorry, I didn't know that this is private discussion.
I have gotten out.

humble · « **Reply #17 on:** August 27, 2005, 09:44:06 PM »

I said I died in a HO....I never said I killed a P47N.

So 1st learn to read....

2nd,

Anytime, anywhere, any plane...

Is that clear enough for you.

As for your analysis....

You dont have a clue about my skills...but feel free to find out anytime I'm up.

I was in a 2 on 8 or 9 on the deck near an enemy base...my squadie had just died and I was almost bingo fuel. I told the guy I was with to make a run for it and tried to clear his 6...I turned into an La-5 that was making a pass....hit me as I tried to force the overshoot...as I scissored back for a shot I turned right into a P-47 at about 1.8...with no E to evade I just leveled out and opened up.

Was nomde's crew, one of them got the kill...dont know it it was the jug or min lala.

I don't know who pissed in your cheerios son, but dont take it out on me.

http://www.azhacker.com/images/mossie&jug.ahf

BTW, this is the film of the fight I was discussing, which was a P47D40....

Vad · « **Reply #18 on:** August 28, 2005, 12:20:38 AM »

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Originally posted by humble
I said I died in a HO....I never said I killed a P47N.

So 1st learn to read....

I didn't say you killed. Stat says you didn't kill and wasn't killed. So 1st learn to understand.

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2nd,

Anytime, anywhere, any plane...

Is that clear enough for you.

As for your analysis....

You dont have a clue about my skills...but feel free to find out anytime I'm up.
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I do have clue. I have killed you in your Mossie.
And I know who are you, you killed me so many times that I gave up to count.

Only what I want to say - it wasn't HO. That is it. Nothing more.

humble · « **Reply #19 on:** August 28, 2005, 01:23:10 AM »

The P47N is the plane who finished me off, from my FE it was nose to nose....or as close as I could get it. If you where there then you know that there were just two of us left at the end vs a gaggle taking off.

As for your "nothing more"....

Little falsehood makes bs everything else

Sounds like you called me a liar over some trivial BS.

If you were the P47 (or one of the other planes) then you know the cicumstances. I was actually clear and reversed back to the other guy to try and clear him. From MY perspective I was trying to HO the jug. It was the only real option I had. If you were involved and have a different perspective of the event thats fine....but I'm articulating the situation as I experienced it...nothing more, nothing less.

This was [and is] a friendly little AAR about a plane I have almost no real experience with.

Thrilla's handling of the bird opened my mind to the possibilities the plane offers. All I did was relay a bit of my experience with it since then. Since I'm not a particularly prudent pilot who is prone to both poor decision making and somewhat limited SA I was a bit suprised that I've been able to make a reasonable showing in a bird that I consider to be more of a "stalkers" plane. I've got no beef with you per se, but object to what I feel are unfair comments.

Vad · « **Reply #20 on:** August 28, 2005, 02:08:28 PM »

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Originally posted by humble

As for your "nothing more"....

Little falsehood makes bs everything else

Sounds like you called me a liar over some trivial BS.

I am sorry for that comment. You are right, it was rude.

FalconSix · « **Reply #21 on:** August 28, 2005, 02:52:43 PM »

Karnak, I find the 110 to be more responsive in the roll and yaw, more stable while using rudder and it doesn't lock up as fast in a dive. I agree that the Mossie isn't as bad as many believe it is, but I still prefer the 110 in the fighter role.

humble · « **Reply #22 on:** August 28, 2005, 03:00:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Vad
I am sorry for that comment. You are right, it was rude.

Your comments appreciated, as for my ending on that particular fight variations in connect time will great alot of variation in views under a hard turn. Just a little varience is going to show a big difference in turn...so from my FE I'm looking at the con...but from the con (no clue for sure if you were the jug but assuming) you've got a front quarter shot. Based on how I understand AH works your FE "see's me" and registers hits from your perspective...even though I get my nose around in my view you hit me on the planeform....soon as my FE picks up your strikes I go poof...so my "HO" never lands.

Now had you (or whoever the jug was) missed then I would register the HO (from my FE) even though your FE doesn't even show me as ever having a shot....

SirLoin · « **Reply #23 on:** August 28, 2005, 08:18:54 PM »

Lol..greta write up..!

Karnak · « **Reply #24 on:** August 28, 2005, 09:10:58 PM »

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Originally posted by FalconSix
Karnak, I find the 110 to be more responsive in the roll and yaw, more stable while using rudder and it doesn't lock up as fast in a dive. I agree that the Mossie isn't as bad as many believe it is, but I still prefer the 110 in the fighter role.

Mossie slightly out rolls the Bf110G-2 and the Mossie doesn't lock up, it tears it's control surfaces off.

I dunno. To me the Bf110G-2 is an easy kill in the Mossie. The only kill a Bf110G-2 has scored on me when I was in a Mossie was a proximity kill after I tore my elevators off while diving on it. Great, big lawn dart, but the Bf110G-2 never touched me.

The Bf110G-2 is better at altitude, no doubt of that and is better for blow up airfields. The Mossie is a better fighter down low though.

FalconSix · « **Reply #25 on:** August 28, 2005, 09:59:41 PM »

Funny, I find the Mossie an easy kill in my 110G. Perhaps this is so because we're the only two people demented enough to fly these dump trucks as fighters.

humble · « **Reply #26 on:** August 29, 2005, 11:11:19 AM »

Only thing (other then popping the vaters a bit) that I still cant get a good feel for is the stall. Seems to be very very sudden with no indication of departure till it happens. Then invariably its some kind of a flat cloverleaf type of deal. I've recovered it a couple of times but since I normally fly at 8k or lower the stalls usually happen at about 200ft above ground. I'm trying to learn to just pump the flap button hard when I'm turning hard...but no clue if its departing above flap speed or not...but when it goes it goes:)

thrila · « **Reply #27 on:** August 30, 2005, 08:12:24 AM »

I know how u feel humble. I've been playing with my stick settings and lost the feel for the impending stall. Took me a week or so to get used to the new settings so i'm no longer stalling like a 2 weeker.

I still shed control surfaces every now and then. When the cockpit starts shaking i leave the joystick alone and trim my plane sloowly upwards.

If you want me to look at any films for u or vice versa send me a pvt msg some time.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #28 on:** August 30, 2005, 08:40:00 AM »

The Mossie is a nice plane. Not great, but it can get the job done if flown properly. In my experience, it's pretty weak in the vertical much like a Hurricane or F4F. I use that against it when flying in a Spit or anything that handles pretty well nose up.

I imagine if someone tries to turn with it slightly nose low that the Mossie would eat him for lunch.

-- Todd/Leviathn

humble · « **Reply #29 on:** August 30, 2005, 10:39:06 AM »

Thats exactly what I did to thrilla, and exactly what the real good sticks have done to me. Just suck the E out of it and stomp on its head and you have no problem (unless you miss your shot). But if you get in a bit to deep the mossie will make you pay for it. Suprisingly decent plane vs an "average" pilot.