Question, what exactly is "FE" "Front end"

[tactic]

I got a question,  I hope im putting this so its understandable.  
and away we go...............FE=Front end

Is the FE ("yours or their FE") when the information reaches your computer and your computer has processed the information received before reaching your monitor  ? Or is it actually when you see it on your monitor?  
   


Is it... the fact of literally "seeing"?    or  what your motherboard and cpu etc, see?      

hope you all get what im asking?  When I get the answer and i can ask the rest of my question.     Hope this can be answered in short so i dont take up a ton of your gents time.  

thanks guys

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by tactic
I got a question,  I hope im putting this so its understandable.  
and away we go...............FE=Front end

Is the FE ("yours or their FE") when the information reaches your computer and your computer has processed the information received before reaching your monitor  ? Or is it actually when you see it on your monitor?  
   


Is it... the fact of literally "seeing"?    or  what your motherboard and cpu etc, see?      

hope you all get what im asking?  When I get the answer and i can ask the rest of my question.     Hope this can be answered in short so i dont take up a ton of your gents time.  

thanks guys

With regard to AH it's a , "What you see is what you get" thing. AH works on a collision detection system, so if you see it, you get it. The Ram is a prime example of this, you only 'get' rammed if you see the ram, if you don't see it, you don't get it.

The time it takes for your CPU to send info to your video card for rendering is measured in nano seconds, so debating which constitutes your "FE" doesn't matter very much.

Zazen

[Schutt]

Difficult question.

I would say FE is the system on your side, composed from computer+drivers+operating system+AH2 program suit.

So front end is not when the information reaches your monitor but the system on your side that processes the information and displays it, talking about the whole system.

It has no specific state in the timeline, so to say that an information reaches your front end leaves it undetermined wheather it will show on the display on your front end right away, later or never.

[tactic]

ok so if your in a bomber, in the pilot seat and someone hits you in the tail your fine because you dont "see it".  But if your in the tail gun and see him hit you, you could receive damage? along with them?    

 lets say,  if your in a fighter and someone hits "rams" you in the rear "Tail" would you and them receive damage err?  Or is it a face to face thing like in a HO situation,  not rear to face  lol!! sort of speak?  


Thanks again for your passing on your knowledge.   S!

[hitech]

Originally posted by tactic
ok so if your in a bomber, in the pilot seat and someone hits you in the tail your fine because you dont "see it".  But if your in the tail gun and see him hit you, you could receive damage? along with them?    

 lets say,  if your in a fighter and someone hits "rams" you in the rear "Tail" would you and them receive damage err?  Or is it a face to face thing like in a HO situation,  not rear to face  lol!! sort of speak?  


Thanks again for your passing on your knowledge.   S!

Think of it as nothing visual. I.E. when we say your FE sees you collide, we realy meen your FE detects a collision.

FE is another term for Client. Basicly each persons computer (CLIENT) is running a detailed simulation of your air plane, your  weapons and a very simple simulation of everone elses plane and weapons.

Your client periodicly sends information about your simulation to the server. The server just dispatiches everones information to everone else on an as needed basis. And then each client runs a small simulation on what they recieve from the sever to fill in the gaps.


So your computer is your reality. But everone has a slightly different simulation, and hence everone sees a slightly different reality.


HiTech

[Whisky58]

Originally posted by hitech

So your computer is your reality. But everone has a slightly different simulation, and hence everone sees a slightly different reality.


HiTech [/B]

Phew! I'll need to check Jean-Paul Sartre on that one.

[TracerX]

I am wondering if what tactic is trying to get at is would it be possible for someone to get so good at flying fighters close to bomber formations that they can actually intend to strike a bomber on the Bomber pilots FE, but not on their own?  Like a high speed flyby?

[humble]

Originally posted by TracerX
I am wondering if what tactic is trying to get at is would it be possible for someone to get so good at flying fighters close to bomber formations that they can actually intend to strike a bomber on the Bomber pilots FE, but not on their own?  Like a high speed flyby?

It can be done, but the problem is that your not "seeing" exactly what the other guy "Sees"...so you could fly "right in front" but they see you either further out or right under....

So your trying to "ram"...meanwhile he's chuckling to squaddies going...the @#$% flew right up my ball turret....or guy flew up 75 out in front of me...ought to rename him "claypidgion"....

[TracerX]

I usually fly the 109G-10 with the 30mm cannon, and at the angles I approach from, I have to get real close before I fire.  The dead six approach would of course be suicide, and any time you get within 600 of a bomber group, you better have an approach other than straight in, or your asking to get swatted out of the sky.  I think I have seen this a time or two as I fired at the lead bomber, one of the drones also exploded as I passed through the formation.  There is no way I could begin to figure out how to make it happen on purpose, but I would not be suprised to know that someone else has.

[humble]

I've had exactly the same thing where I'm shooting at the lead plane and one of the drones goes as I scream between them. Also had lots of times where the drone "microwarps" right in front of me as well:)

[Ghosth]

If there was no lag, yes, its possible you could fly in front of someone, slowly slow down so they ran into you.

But with no way of knowing what the lag is its virtually impossible.

[Schutt]

Originally posted by tactic
ok so if your in a bomber, in the pilot seat and someone hits you in the tail your fine because you dont "see it".  But if your in the tail gun and see him hit you, you could receive damage? along with them?    

 lets say,  if your in a fighter and someone hits "rams" you in the rear "Tail" would you and them receive damage err?  Or is it a face to face thing like in a HO situation,  not rear to face  lol!! sort of speak?  


Thanks again for your passing on your knowledge.   S!

Read my definition again. Your frontend is the application that runs on your computer, periphials and operating system.

If ah on your computer detects that another plane hits your tail you get damage, no matter which view you use. So looking the other way doesnt help. (Isnt there a bird using that policy?).
If you see the other plane or not is of no importance, important is if any part of the other plane hits any part of your plane in the calculated flight pathes.

[g00b]

One could draw some very interesting parallels between the game and real life.

Each individual has their own reality (FE), yet we all partake of the same reality (server).

AH religion anyone?

g00b