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Offline Siaf__csf

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« Reply #150 on: September 03, 2005, 12:11:57 PM »
He was talking about american trucks, not volvo. We already know the Volvo will have cutting edge tech inside.
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Offline Skydancer

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« Reply #151 on: September 03, 2005, 12:16:29 PM »
Hey Beetle, if Ken Clarke gets in as leader I might just switch to blue;)

As for gas i use that to heat and cook, I use petrol in jmy vehicles ;)

I guess I'll have to keep on using my fuel efficient motorcycle and carry on beating those jams! :lol
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« Reply #152 on: September 03, 2005, 12:16:40 PM »
thinking the price at the pumps reflects the true cost of gasoline is being naive, factor in the hidden costs to secure resources.

the public pays for it on both ends.
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« Reply #153 on: September 03, 2005, 01:08:39 PM »
American big diesels are in same line with European competants; our local truck manufacturer is using Mack's and Cummins' engines and in some cases Eaton-Fuller gearboxes (thought usually synchronized ZF's AFAIK).
However the frames, brakes, suspensions and other technical equipments and ergonomy was far from what Mercedes, Scania and Volvo had in their models at least ten years ago; maybe they're better now.
I've driven (just for test when I had possibility) new MAN, Volvo F16 & F12 and Scania 142 (+ancient 110 Super & 140).
New are very impressive cars; better ergonomy than in ordinary sedans with a dashboard surrounding driver, gear robots, top of the line audio systems, leather steering wheels, alu wheels around + disc brakes... bling-bling :D
btw Scania made crashtests with trucks already in seventies.
btw2: I saw US embassy's truck maybe week ago; it looked like it was from seventies... or from Russia.

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« Reply #154 on: September 03, 2005, 01:14:35 PM »
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I saw US embassy's truck maybe week ago; it looked like it was from seventies...  


Ummmmmmm...probably because it was. :)
That is no comparison point to what U.S. commercial trucks are in use on the highway here. Top of the line all the way and total workhorses with the luxury and comfort that bypasses even the finest autos. Besides that.....a KW or Pete doesn`t look like a tinker toy. :)
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« Reply #155 on: September 03, 2005, 01:24:11 PM »
btw didn't Volvo buy some US truck manufacturer? Peterbilt?
Another question... why COE's aren't much used in US?
In here every meter (or foot if you like) is used for cargo space; max lenght of the "rigid" is 83feet and weight ~136000lb.
From max lenght of 83 feet the cargo has about 62feet leaving just about 20feet for the cabin and tow bar between truck and trailer. Why waste space; it costs money?

Edit: some tow bars are also telescopic; it's pulled "in" when driving in road to get overall lenght to stay under 83 feet but it's not possible to make tight turns in loading yards without crushing the corners of your truck and trailer without lenghtening the tow bar.
But you can fit in two more pallets and that's what counts in long routes.
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« Reply #156 on: September 03, 2005, 01:34:01 PM »
"As a multinational technology company, PACCAR manufactures heavy-duty, on- and off-road Class 8 trucks sold around the world under the Kenworth, Peterbilt, DAF and Foden nameplates. The company competes in the North American Class 6-7 market with its medium-duty models assembled in North America and sold under the Peterbilt and Kenworth nameplates. In addition, DAF manufactures Class 6-7 trucks in the Netherlands and Belgium for sale throughout Europe, the Middle East and Africa and distributes Class 4-7 trucks in Europe manufactured by Leyland Trucks (UK)."
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« Reply #157 on: September 03, 2005, 01:43:34 PM »
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btw didn't Volvo buy some US truck manufacturer? Peterbilt?

 i donn't think volvo owns Pete.
i know Mercedes/Crysler corporation owns Freightlinear, (+WesternStar) the largest truck producer in North America.  They own Detroit Diesel engines,( That's why Volvo doesn't use anymore Detroit engines since 2001) but they use CAT and Cummins also . For 2 years now are building Freightlinear trucks with Mercedes engine in Portland ,Oregon plant. The mercedes heavy diesel engines are buit in Brasil,
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« Reply #158 on: September 03, 2005, 04:23:56 PM »
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btw didn't Volvo buy some US truck manufacturer? Peterbilt?


Now I remember... Volvo bought White in 1981 :)
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« Reply #159 on: September 03, 2005, 04:32:53 PM »
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« Reply #160 on: September 04, 2005, 05:54:30 AM »
See Rule #5
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« Reply #161 on: September 04, 2005, 05:59:26 AM »
Lazs get out on your bike more;)
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« Reply #162 on: September 04, 2005, 06:48:31 AM »
Lasz should really be signing petitions and promote cars with low consumption, not the oposite. If overall consumption on the planet goes down he can enjoy his big engine for a few years longer. ;)
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« Reply #163 on: September 04, 2005, 10:21:34 AM »
well... I figure you guys are the ones who don't get it.   Breakthroughs in tech industries allway happen the quickest durrig times of desperation... cheap oil?  let's just sit on our butts...  everyone conserves or quits driving or is willing to drive golf carts around?   cool.... end of problem.

I don't care if it is $6 a gallon here (it will be 12 for you euros)  I will just drive the good cars less but when I do.... it will still be a blast.   I figure you guys conserving are the real problem.

If you drive a car that gets over 12 miles to the gallon then you are part of the problem not part of the solution.

lazs
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« Reply #164 on: September 04, 2005, 10:44:14 AM »
very once in a while laz, yah lay one out that just cracks me up.

new bumper stickers..

Stimulate Alternative Fuel Research. Drive a Street Rod

DRIVE A HYBRID AND THE TERRORISTS WIN
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