Author Topic: SELA, Katrina, and the Iraq War.. (Read 1765 times)

Gunslinger · « **Reply #30 on:** September 01, 2005, 02:16:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Mighty1
Actually it is Robert Kennedy Jr. that is making the claim.

Kennedy BS

Thanks....My bad. I suppose it's not hard to mix up your kennedy's now a days.

FiLtH · « **Reply #31 on:** September 01, 2005, 04:22:19 PM »

I really pity our president. He's had the most drama to deal with of any president I can think of off hand..and he's had the least to work with.

Daddy...where do idiots come from?
Public schools Timmy...public schools.

Thrawn · « **Reply #32 on:** September 01, 2005, 05:53:57 PM »

The US signing the Kyoto agreement wouldn't have help. That is because it is a poorly constructed treaty that won't help the problem of global warming but hurt it. Let me be quite clear about this, I am in no way a supporter of the Kyoto Accord.

Just recently a climatologist released a report that analyized trends in hurricanes over the past few decades. Although he found that there are no more now than there has been in the past, he found that they have become much more powerful.

Some may say, "Well, the big was going to hit New Orleans eventually.".

This is true, but I have to wonder that if hurricanes have become more powerful because of global warming (which makes all the sense in the world to me because ocean temperature is directly related to hurricane strength) then the probablity of New Orleans getting hit by a Cat 3+ in a given time frame increases.

Bush didn't make it happen. But I believe global warming was a significant contributer.

Some people say that an economic penalty of trying to limit man's contribution to global warming isn't worth it. In hindsight what happened to the Gulf in the last two years due to hurricanes, the unprecidented drough in Australia the last few years, the flooding in Eastern Europe, the heat wave in Western Europe last year, the flooding in Manitoba this year, etc., etc. I ask these people to reconcider thier position.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #33 on:** September 01, 2005, 07:21:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Bush didn't make it happen. But I believe global warming was a significant contributer.

But global warming has been around a hell of alot longer then bush has been president.

They've been talking about global warming nearly as far back as I can remember and Im gonna be 44 on the 19th.

Seems there have been a hell of alot of presidents and world leaders in that time period that could have done something but didnt.

To blame Bush. or his policies on this current is proposterous

As for shoring up the levies.
Half a billion dollars over 10 years and they couldnt get it done and someone is going to blame a reduction in funds over a year and a half span in the levie breaking?

I'd almost be willing to bet a nice sized chunk of those spent funds never saw the levies but lined peoples pockets instead and wouldnt be surprised if an investigation.( which you just know is going to be comming cause that what the government does whenever something happens) reveals this to be the case.

Funding also could have and should have been collected elsewhere. Casinos,oil companies and other big buisnesses down there should have all been required to kick in. After all it certainly would have been not only in the cities interests but also very much in their own best interests.

After all this type of thing has been being predicted for quite some time. Big buisness, or any buisness for that matter Kicking in funds should have been mandatory if you want to build.

Thrawn · « **Reply #34 on:** September 01, 2005, 07:24:58 PM »

"But global warming has been around a hell of alot longer then bush has been president."

Not agruing that, or really even trying to assign blame.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #35 on:** September 01, 2005, 08:56:40 PM »

Good post thrawn. Glad to see you actually making sense for a change

Skydancer · « **Reply #36 on:** September 02, 2005, 08:25:00 AM »

""The American president has closed his eyes to the economic and human damage that natural catastrophes such as Katrina -- in other words, disasters caused by a lack of climate protection measures -- can visit on his country."

MMM now I wonder ?

soda72 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 02, 2005, 08:31:29 AM »

good thing the city spent money on the superdome instead of investing in the useless leves...

Skydancer · « **Reply #38 on:** September 02, 2005, 09:23:25 AM »

The Mayor of New Orleans was just on CNN. He seems to think that theres a link between spending on Iraq and the total failure of federal govt to deal with this situation. And the way he said it would definately get him banned from this board!!!

Masherbrum · « **Reply #39 on:** September 02, 2005, 09:46:45 AM »

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Originally posted by DoctorYO
Where anywhere in my statement does it say bush... (the article describes Bush's mostly in reference to his budget 4 times hardly muck raking.. I bet next you will claim editor and publisher is some democrat mag / biased crapola..)

Valiant effort fellas..

Glad to be the dark horse RIP.. even though I didn't blame anyone just pointed out some facts..

See our budget in the USA gets submitted by the president then to congress for approval..

so in reality there is a whole gaggle with partial blame to lay..

I really love how you fellas just invent statements.. say you just took words out of context i'd could understand your actions but pure fabrication is getting a little old and busted .. please think up some new tactics..

thank you..

If you actually took the time to do some research you'll see im right.. just like when you people said I was nutz to think the tube shooting was pure incompetence (it was later proven as such) or Jessica Lynch false medal..(later proven im right again..) or WMD in Iraq.. (proven right..) or the sink whole that Iraq has been thruout history alexander, mongols, romans, now usa (i was right again.. check your current events..) time and time again you question what i have to say, time and time again i'm right and the peanut gallery is wrong.. the only thing you might cry foul was my disagreement with Lazs about some mechanics of m16a2 rifle which to this day i still stand by.. (how many rounds you fire thru a military a1 a2 Lazs? I rest my case..)

I'll bet some money and give 15-1 odds im right again on this one..

"there will be a nasty row over this once the smoke clears.." that is my statement.. not Bush's magical weather machine conspriacy.. shoulda coulda woulda on global warming etc.. what was described above was clearly preventable if you take the time to research.. google SELA and start reading.. not heresay or yapping..

Now place your bets.. my money is on me as always..

any takers.. (i remember when this war started I said re-up fellas.. to date only gunslinger has ponied up.. and he is a REMF.. so pony up Im still waiting.. vocal minority.. same chest thumpers still got no re-up papers but still yapping for conflict... )

thought not.. (but youll insert your yappy comeback..3-1 odds) (Cheeky chav* bastages... )

DoctorYo

* Chav - I like the ring of the that thanks HTC boards..

As you step down off of your pedestal, realize that all the money in the world wouldn't not have changed the outcome. NO was designed in the 1800's and just modified, and overpopulated from the original design. The "L337" Pump system, failed, and the levees broke. Why? They were designed to control damage from a Category 3 Hurricane. Wait, this was a Category 4 Hurricane. Again, all of the money wouldn't have made a difference.

Karaya

Eagler · « **Reply #40 on:** September 02, 2005, 10:44:25 AM »

some of your beliefs woud be SNL material if you did not actually believe it yourself...

Bush cause the Tsunami last Xmas too right? no wonder the world hates the US.. we affect the weather now!
what a bunch of idiots... truly

Krusher · « **Reply #41 on:** September 02, 2005, 10:50:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
The Mayor of New Orleans was just on CNN. He seems to think that theres a link between spending on Iraq and the total failure of federal govt to deal with this situation. And the way he said it would definately get him banned from this board!!!

The mayor of NO is covering his butt. He did nothing prior to this disaster and now its everyones fault but his cities.

Skydancer · « **Reply #42 on:** September 02, 2005, 11:11:26 AM »

Could be right there I guess.

Black Sheep · « **Reply #43 on:** September 02, 2005, 11:39:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusher
The mayor of NO is covering his butt. He did nothing prior to this disaster and now its everyones fault but his cities.

Exactly - the percentage that they say living in poverty IN NO that couldnt afford to leave prior to any disaster, reflects and starts at the local level of government. On the other hand, the way the people trapped there are handling things is both honorable and pathetic. A Catch 22 for any relief efforts.

lazs2 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 02, 2005, 11:43:16 AM »

well dr yo... I never said the tube shooting was competent or that lynch was a hero or any of that .... I did point out that you were wrong on the firearms issue...

sooo.... for anyone keeping score....so far.... as far as antything I have ever dissagreed with you on.... I am right and you are wrong. I don't really need to hitch my saddle to your star just yet.

lazs