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Offline Krusty

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #450 on: April 16, 2008, 09:15:59 AM »
Rich... did you not even READ the original post? He makes a direct correlation to the Ar234, only he's totally wrong as to how the 234 works in-game. He has no idea what he's talking about.


Whatever. Enjoy flogging a deceased equestrian.


P.S. Just to clarify as I leave this thread for the birds, "B-29" is what I meant when typing "B-24." A typo/slip, but probably obvious enough given the subject at hand.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #451 on: April 16, 2008, 09:46:43 AM »
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Please stop spamming us with the damn B29 threads
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #452 on: April 16, 2008, 10:04:29 AM »
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All that the B29 did could have been done with the B24 and the B17. By the time it showed up, Japan was already in its death throes. The B29 far from ended the war, it just quickened the process.

Thats what bothers me most about these B-29 threads. These guys are so afraid of it they totally re-write actual history to strengthen their case against them being included in the game.

The first actual combat mission flown by B-29s was on 5 June 1944. Before even D-day. It was also even before we invaded Saipan in the Marianas and before the Marianas Turkey shoot. It was a month before we invaded Guam and a month before we invaded Tinian. It was 4 months before we destroyed the IJN at the Battle of Leyte Gulf, which btw saw the first use of kamikaze by Japanese forces. On June 5'th '44 most of her Pacific empire was still in the hands of Imperial Japan. Her mainland industries and cities were completely intact and the war was far, far from being over in the Pacific. The first actual mission against mainland Japan was on 14 June '44, it being only the 2'nd time their mainland was attacked by bombers. Of course the first was the Doolittle raid.

The "Fat Man" bomb dropped on Nagasaki weighed in at over 10,000 lbs and no other airplane could have flown it to Nagasaki, dropped it, and flown back, other then the B-29.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #453 on: April 16, 2008, 10:16:08 AM »
The B29 i think is a definet possibility. Of course no atom bomb but wat about napalm? could destroy factories and towns, and little effect on bases. If they have drones i think is over kill and they should be perked.


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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #454 on: April 16, 2008, 10:35:20 AM »
Rich... did you not even READ the original post? He makes a direct correlation to the Ar234, only he's totally wrong as to how the 234 works in-game. He has no idea what he's talking about.


Whatever. Enjoy flogging a deceased equestrian.


P.S. Just to clarify as I leave this thread for the birds, "B-29" is what I meant when typing "B-24." A typo/slip, but probably obvious enough given the subject at hand.

I bow to Krusty, for he has shown me that I made an error in my wording.  And because of this error I realize that I am not  as perfect as he and I have no clue to what I was talking about, my error, get over it and move along .  And for those that complain about beating a dead horse, I do not recall anywhere that the forum rules state that you must respond to every post.  For the most part this mini poll was just to see if some people wanted the 29 and under what conditions they would like to see. Instead we get whines and complaints about it.  I'm sure most of you can read the title, yes it says B29 in it.  If your not interested then please feel free to move along to the next post of something you are intersted in.  Thanks and have wonderous day.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #455 on: April 16, 2008, 11:01:53 AM »
don't you see there is another B29 thread just under this one ? don't you see there as been 128425204 B29 thread already ?
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #456 on: April 16, 2008, 11:03:14 AM »
My oh my, please look before you post. There were two other threads on this subject within reading range in the wishlist forum before you posted this.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #457 on: April 16, 2008, 11:05:22 AM »
don't you see there is another B29 thread just under this one ? don't you see there as been 128425204 B29 thread already ?

So your answer to the question is?
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #458 on: April 16, 2008, 11:08:21 AM »
So your answer to the question is?

My answer is : E) Ban the words B-29, B29 , superwhatever from the wishlist forum
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #459 on: April 16, 2008, 11:11:52 AM »
...When you expand your quidelines to include all government agencies I would say the Space Shuttle is the most costly government project of similar nature.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #460 on: April 16, 2008, 11:13:14 AM »
I especially enjoy when they use our tax dollars to build some martian rover that is never expected to return, and they did this two times in a row. :mad:

The rover itself is not so expensive, its the trip that costs ^^
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #461 on: April 16, 2008, 11:15:21 AM »
I still choose to blame NASA for hiring someone to convince the government that performing a multi-billion dollar suicide mission was worth it.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #462 on: April 19, 2008, 01:05:20 AM »
Every reference book I have has the B29's ceiling at 31,850 ft and the B17's ceiling at 35,800 ft. I don't see a lot of 17s flying that high.
And sure it's top speed was 358 mph but if you left the throttle jammed to the firewall the engines would catch fire, it's cruising speed was 230 mph.
It wasn't invincible, at the time that it was used most of Japan's best pilots were already dead.
And for the people who are so down on bombers, why do you think they built fighters? Wasn't a fighter's main duty to either attack or defend bombers, recon and attack aircraft?
I just don't think it would make that much of a difference, I agree we should have more axis bombers but would they get flown that much? Just my two cents worth, and besides, after being a member here for 8 years I'd kinda like to move out of the zinc category.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #463 on: April 19, 2008, 07:29:38 AM »

 B-29 General characteristics
Primary function    High-altitude heavy bomber
Contractor    Boeing Airplane Company
Next builders    Bell Aircraft, Marietta, Glenn L. Martin
Power plant    Four Wrigth R-3350-23 Cyclone 18-cylinder twin-row radials engines
Thrust    4x 2,200 HP    4x 1,641 kW
Wingspan    141.2 ft    43.05 m
Length    99 ft    30.18 m
Height    27.8 ft    8.46 m
Wingarea    1,736 sq ft    161.27 sq m
Weight    empty    13,5011 lb    33,795 kg
max.    74,505 lb    61,240 kg
Speed    max.    357 mph    575 km/h
cruising    290 mph    467 km/h
Ceiling    36,000 ft    10,973 m
Range    3,250 miles    5,230 km
Armament    1x 20mm cannon, 12x 12.7mm machine gun; 9,072 kg bombs
Crew    10-14
First flight    September 21, 1942
Date deployed    1943
Unit cost    $639,000
Number built    3,967

Malfunctions are not modeled in game, so fires are out. Buffs now fly at FFT now so you'll have a 357mph, 30k+. Try and intercept that, hell try and intercept B-24s at 30k.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #464 on: April 19, 2008, 08:16:38 AM »
Not frequently enough, it seems. I'll even keep it to just formation ones:

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B-17G
B-24J
B-25C
B-25H
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