Author Topic: Katrina - attics (Read 556 times)

Hangtime · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2005, 04:51:32 PM »

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Originally posted by megadud
also most of them probably had no where to go.

Eagler · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2005, 04:56:03 PM »

it seems to be the very poor, unemployed types, and the elderly that were left in the city of NO

at least when it turns into a riot, it will be very hard to burn the wet buildings

megadud · « **Reply #17 on:** August 31, 2005, 05:00:02 PM »

yea and alot of people did go there. so i will go back to my first point! when the weatherman says the storm is only going to miss you.

sling322 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 31, 2005, 10:43:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
if a person is mobile enuff to get into an attic crawlspace then I humbly sumbit that that person was most likely mobile enuff to get to a bus stop and get to the super bowl before the storm struck.

folks that were totally incapacitated should have asked for ambulatory assistance in getting to a hospital before the storm.

certainly there will be some who have no phone, no tv or radio and no way to react to the evacuation order.

and therin lies the tragedy.

new orleans is now populated by folks that said 'oh, bull, we'll be fine' types and 'oh, boy; we'll clean up on stuff as soon as the power goes out'. I hope the first group gets the hell to help and saftey before elements of the second group find them.

the last group is the muckraking media and the emergency services and medical folks.. i do hope the security folks expend their resources protecting the EMS and medical folks.. and put the media rats in close contact with the looters.

again.. this is a horrible situation; I'm not at all gloating. I'm also not at all surprised. The simple fact is the vast majority of folks now wandering the streets of that doomed city made a concious choice to be there... and now, folks that couldn't get out cannot be helped because the EMS folks are overwhelmed dealing with folks that could have gotten out and chose not too.

And that's costing lives... it's a waste, don't you think?

I agree....unfortunately there just didnt seem to be enough time and resources to force everyone to leave. Stuffing more people into the Super Dome isnt the answer.....look what happened to all of them. They are now being bussed to the Astrodome here in Houston. Maybe the answer would have been forced evacuations....going house to house and physically removing people from their homes. I saw one guy on the news the day before it hit saying that he didnt have a car or anyone to give him a ride out of the city so he was just going to hang out and get drunk with his friends and if it was their time to die at least they would do it while they were having fun. What do you do when folks take such a fatalistic view?

I grew up in south TX and we had our share of hurricanes when I was a kid. I lived in a freaking trailer house about a 1/4 mile from a small river and when the storms were predicted to come close we would pack up all the important stuff and head to higher ground which usually meant staying with my grandparents because they lived in a brick home farther away from the river. Hurricane Beulah in '69 was bad enough that my grandfather had to go out in a boat to feed the cows who were huddled on a hill in the middle of the pasture and tornados during Allen in '82 took out 2 houses within a 1/2 mile of our house but luckily we never had any extensive damage or flooding. I know enough to know that when they tell you its time to leave....you better leave. You would think that the folks in New Orleans would have learned this by now. Unfortunately some people never learn......

Lazerus · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2005, 04:03:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
what i don't get is why you would stay/die in the attic when you could swim out and climb up on the roof?

The water rises, it floods into your home. The winds outside are well over 100mph, too strong for most people to stand up in, let alone try to save their family. The surface of the water is covered with so much debris it looks like a moving floor. You decide to go up to the attic instead of braving the unsurvivable conditions outside in the hopes that the water will stop rising. It doesn't. You can't survive the swim through the house, you try to break out of the roof. It either gives or it doesn't, you either get a few more minutes or you don't.

Hang, you are right to some degree, but I would guess that it's about 50/50. Many people said they tried to leave but couldn't get out(they started too late). Many people said they had no means to leave.

Either way, I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone.

Maybe the looters.