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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2005, 02:27:34 AM »
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Okay what about air drops? Can't they do that at least?

Most I've heard is the odd truck driving by, tossing out MREs.

Where is the Guard? Where is everybody?!

This aint Leavenworth Kansas, this is NEW ORLEANS for chrissakes! (apologies for the exclamation marks, but I'm an excitable guy, and this is one whale of a tragedy).

There's going to be hell to pay. Oh yeah. I don't know by who or from where, but this is just incredible. I'm astonished.

Can't they do air drops or something?


Well, I'm deeply disappointed in the inability of the state(s) and federal government to get their backside's into motion. For crying out loud, the military can move an airborne division across the globe in 36 hours, yet the bureaucrats can't get bottled water moved 50 miles in four days!!!

There's nothing as useless on the planet as a professional bureaucrat.

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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2005, 05:31:56 AM »
IE6 flash 7 and WMP 10?
No, that is video that is not worth watching.

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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2005, 06:15:18 AM »
Wtf how is this possible? Why aren't they supplying at least water to people?

I can't believe what I saw.

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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2005, 07:01:13 AM »
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4 days. FOUR DAYS. Jebus! Where is the help?

It's insane. I don't get it. What's going on?


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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2005, 07:49:30 AM »
I am really surprised at how slowly everything is moving.  I recall Andrew and the Army was there setting up tent cities on the 2nd day.  Andrew rolled in and out on Aug 24-25 and the troops were there on the 27th.  And it seemed response from other agencies was faster too.  I recall that even Kennedy Space Center sent a convoy of water tankers and supplies that arrived on the 27th too.

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2005, 07:54:25 AM »
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I am really surprised at how slowly everything is moving.  I recall Andrew and the Army was there setting up tent cities on the 2nd day.  Andrew rolled in and out on Aug 24-25 and the troops were there on the 27th.  And it seemed response from other agencies was faster too.  I recall that even Kennedy Space Center sent a convoy of water tankers and supplies that arrived on the 27th too.


THe primary reason is water. Andrew's water from rain receded within the ground quite quickly. The levi in NO busted on the 2nd day after the hurricane and filled the "bowl" up making it very difficult to get in to  set up anything on dry ground. As for Mississippi, the flood water combined with the devastation is incredible and from what I am seeing, much more extensive. One of the worst logistical nightmares is flooding from a rescue/recovery point of view.

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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2005, 08:11:00 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2005, 08:36:04 PM »
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There's no question that some chose to ride it out.

In a population of millions, the fact that some would make that choice should be a given. Factored in.

Not a talking point. NOT an excuse for a frankly, appaling response to this.


I do have to say what I say on the news today from a guy in MS.  He said that because the storm hit so close to the 1st of the month, the poorest had no money for gas.  There was a town of 6,000 where only a few survived who rode it out and this is what they told him.

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2005, 08:38:07 PM »
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Well, I'm deeply disappointed in the inability of the state(s) and federal government to get their backside's into motion. For crying out loud, the military can move an airborne division across the globe in 36 hours, yet the bureaucrats can't get bottled water moved 50 miles in four days!!!


I saw an interview where a an ex-military analyst was asked that very question.  His answer was, "because this is a federal FEMA operation, and not a military operation."

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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2005, 08:48:02 PM »
Bush appointed his buddy, a real estate lawyer, as the head of FEMA, then systematically gutted it. Its budget was slashed. They were told to stop training for natural disasters. They were being directed to move towards Homeland Security.

So if it's a FEMA operation, whaddya expect?

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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2005, 09:01:04 PM »
My real only comment is that if im correct, isnt New Orleans and some of the southern coast stretching from Louisiana to Florida 20 feet or more under water.  If your going to live in that area you should expect floods quite often.  Not trying to be mean or anything but the people there have to be pretty stupid to be living on the coast that is under sea level that much and not going to expect floods.
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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2005, 09:07:11 PM »
The population in New Orleans is 70% minorities.  Need I say more?

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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2005, 09:17:46 PM »
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There may be more to that than just that short statement. When a person relies on "they" to "give" them everything from housing to medical care to that monthly check those people give away their responsibility for their own survival. Watch any plea on the media from those that did not evacuate when told too and you will hear the words "they" haven't "given" us anything, "they" ain't helping, "give" us something, "give" us water. Where did their responsibility go for their own safety and actions? Give long enough and those receiving become either unwilling or unable to help themselves."

this was posted on another board, seems reasonably accurate.


as for getting aid money down there? what money? were spending it all on gas...

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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2005, 09:28:42 PM »
Until THEY, get help - WE will get our nuts squeezed that much more by higher fuel costs.


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« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2005, 09:33:10 PM »
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Until THEY, get help - WE will get our nuts squeezed that much more by higher fuel costs.


of course, a good publicity stunt would be some oil or gas company promising x% of every gallon sold to go directly to help NO, though the bastards would probably just bump up prices by that same percentage to compensate