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Offline Octavius

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« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2005, 12:43:34 AM »
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i have to agrewiht mr filht on this one.   for some reason the jug appealsrs to me afateer 9 drrinks more than the jug40.  

Yoo have to r ealize trhe  gravity of the situation, then you shalll become enlightnened as i have becvome...  taht is all.  hogroolz.
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« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2005, 02:20:04 AM »
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I'd love F4U's more if I wasn't such a clutz at field landings.



Landing em's easy.  Get as slow as possible, drop full flaps, drop yer gear.  When you touch down, hit the brakes and when she starts to swerve, full rudder the opposite way.  Plane skids sideways, you lose one wheel, she stops on a wingtip and you exit. Beautiful 2 point landing.  :)

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« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2005, 11:31:34 AM »
I used to have the same problem. Now I come in slow and a couple notches flaps. When I touch down I press forward on the stick to keep my tail up and off the ground. Braking as I do this, keeping my tail up as long as I can. At the last second I slam the tail down and pull back. Seems to prevent the loops.

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« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2005, 11:34:15 AM »
Come in slow with full flaps at 100kts and no gear, touch down lightly and exit when you come to a grinding stop. :)

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« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2005, 09:33:26 PM »
kill the engine before you land, keep the tail up until you'e slow enogh that it won't lift when you pull back. Pulling back when you are on 3 points locks the tail wheel and keeps you from "looping" yet yu can still steer slightly with the rudder.

F6F-5 still the better bird all around..:p

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« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2005, 02:54:52 AM »
i love to sit in the tower and watch the Ensign Eliminators try to land...good times.
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« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2005, 05:56:43 AM »
Always do a main gear landing in the corsair,never a three point landing as in real life the corsair has a habit of ground looping in a three pointer.:aok

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« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2005, 07:18:04 AM »
Tell ya what boys...the so-called superiority of the hog over the Jug is only evident at low altitudes.  Take the Jug to 30,000 feet, where it was designed to be, and it will eat the hog alive.

According to Cokey Roberts, the Jug's low-speed stall characteristics were even better than the Hellcat's.  Both of those aircraft had stall characteristics far superior to those of the Corsair.  The main problem with the Jug was that when it DID stall it tended to lose a great deal of altitude before recovery, while the Hellcat did not.  

The stall-tripper wedge on the hog corrected some of it's vicious stall characteristics, but also apparently hurt it's turning capability.  Dean's tome "America's Hundred Thousand" rates the hog dead last of all U.S. fighters in turning capability.

Hypothetical question for those who might know...because I don't:  does the dropping of flaps ALWAYS help a fighter's turning ability...or does it just lower the stalling speed?  I've always assumed that it was the former...but would that be true for all aircraft?

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« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2005, 04:52:46 PM »
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LOL....Manboobs


It would be a training air bra


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Oh, man!  This reminds me of the after-credits video in the movie Dodgeball, done to the lyrics "My milkshake brings the boys to the yard."  Hilarious.  Distrubing, but hilarious.

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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2005, 04:54:23 PM »
51d 38g:D

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« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2005, 05:51:57 PM »
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Dean's tome "America's Hundred Thousand" rates the hog dead last of all U.S. fighters in turning capability.


I didn't know about this excellent book.  Thanks for mentioning it!  I ordered a copy today to add to my collection.

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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2005, 12:59:09 PM »
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Tell ya what boys...the so-called superiority of the hog over the Jug is only evident at low altitudes.  Take the Jug to 30,000 feet, where it was designed to be, and it will eat the hog alive.

According to Cokey Roberts, the Jug's low-speed stall characteristics were even better than the Hellcat's.  Both of those aircraft had stall characteristics far superior to those of the Corsair.  The main problem with the Jug was that when it DID stall it tended to lose a great deal of altitude before recovery, while the Hellcat did not.  

The stall-tripper wedge on the hog corrected some of it's vicious stall characteristics, but also apparently hurt it's turning capability.  Dean's tome "America's Hundred Thousand" rates the hog dead last of all U.S. fighters in turning capability.

Hypothetical question for those who might know...because I don't:  does the dropping of flaps ALWAYS help a fighter's turning ability...or does it just lower the stalling speed?  I've always assumed that it was the former...but would that be true for all aircraft?

Regards, Shuckins


At high alt the jug will dominatew just about anything in the game...not just the hog.

But at "intermediate" {18k or less} alt and below I think the Hog has the edge. It has better rudder authority and a bit of an edge in turn rate...the jug is a touch better in roll I think. The big edge is the ability to bleed E faster combined with slightly better acceleration.

None of it is enough to offset a difference in pilot ability...a good jug pilot will beat an average hog driver (and visaversa)...but if you get two evenly matched sticks I think the hog has a bit of an edge...


IN AH the hog out turns the JUG (not D11) IMO...but both turn better then most folks think.
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« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2005, 02:32:49 AM »
After having a devil of a time shaking an F4U off my arse earlier this evening (I never succeeded to shake him), I've decided to become more familiar with the Hog.  And, damn...runway landings are a *****.  

I break my left wing 90% of the time.  The other 10%, I get lucky with a main gear landing and a perfectly timed lock of the tail wheel--just before the back end wants to come around.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2005, 07:24:03 AM »
Try cutting the engine off as you touch down.


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« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2005, 01:02:03 PM »
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Try cutting the engine off as you touch down.


Bronk


Great idea.  Thanks, Bronk.  :)  
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