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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2005, 12:53:11 PM »
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It's a shame they sent Emercom ILs, not VVS. Could be great to see a plane with Red Stars unloading aid to poor Americans who can't afford blankets and tents.
 


  It`s not the fact that they are "poor Americans who can't afford blankets and tents.". It is the fact that it is a disaster area. Get it?

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« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2005, 12:57:29 PM »
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Don't you think your goverment should accept the help, not cuz realy need it, but use this occasion to open positive dialog and shake hands with "enemy " ?!    Would this make  US safer than bilions of $ wasted in homeland security  ?

Of coarse we should. It will show some of us Americans that they are "helpful, compassionate" people too.
We won't though. Just think of the wasted tax dollars of our propaganda machine! By God, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2005, 01:08:45 PM »
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It will show some of us Americans that they are "helpful, compassionate" people too.
 


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« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2005, 01:18:00 PM »
no

no thanks...take care of your own..we got it handled here


Iran,,,dont you have an electricity problem..you need spend money on how you can make a nuke power plant..cause you are running out of oil..


Cuba?....how can they afford to send money..didnt they juts mandate the state will give each house hold a rice cooker!!! wow..rich folks there...how about you take care of your own poor


Russia?....How about this...SPEND SOME of your cash...cleaining up your rusting nuke and diesel subs..I seen your ports..CLEAN YORU CRAP UP...we send millions of dollars to help you clean up..DO IT YOURSELF



1) STOP all Illegal imagrant money
2) Open Closed military bases fro homless
3) STOP all African AIDS money

there we juts brought in a billion or so $

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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2005, 01:27:17 PM »
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It`s not the fact that they are "poor Americans who can't afford blankets and tents.". It is the fact that it is a disaster area. Get it?


I get it. Some people don't, or why did that two IL-76 stay loaded in Ramenskoe airfield for 10 days?

In plain words: It seems to me that accepting blankets and tents is just an act of  "being polite", while for some reasons US refused to accept professional help.

BTW, Russian epidemiological service has some experience too, I wonder why assistance in this field wasn't offered. Or it was, but it's too complicated for media to comprehend?

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« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2005, 01:38:22 PM »
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Russia?....How about this...SPEND SOME of your cash...cleaining up your rusting nuke and diesel subs..I seen your ports..CLEAN YORU CRAP UP...we send millions of dollars to help you clean up..DO IT YOURSELF


Millions of dollars?! LOL!!! :lol If there were any real money sent - the only condition was to dispose of newest and modern subs, not the rusty crap from the 1950s. Sorry, I don't believe in American charity, I have some reasons.

What makes me wonder is why US asks for tents and blankets, as if you don't have enough of them in Army stock.

Just told this to a co-worker, he started to describe warehouses of a an internal troops division where he served in 1990-92... They still had stuff made in XIX century, like showels and other hard stuff, they had enough tents for three such divisions, blankets and sleeping bags too, etc.

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« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2005, 01:42:57 PM »
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Millions of dollars?! LOL!!! :lol If there were any real money sent - the only condition was to dispose of newest and modern subs, not the rusty crap from the 1950s. Sorry, I don't believe in American charity, I have some reasons.

What makes me wonder is why US asks for tents and blankets, as if you don't have enough of them in Army stock.

Just told this to a co-worker, he started to describe warehouses of a an internal troops division where he served in 1990-92... They still had stuff made in XIX century, like showels and other hard stuff, they had enough tents for three such divisions, blankets and sleeping bags too, etc.


Im sorry Boroda, but for the first time i have seen you are dead wrong. The money we send go directly to scrapping the oldest or those in the worst conditon first. Living so near to the "nukular das boots" perhaps gives us a different perspectiv than the USA'ers tho.

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« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2005, 02:13:53 PM »
we have plenty of blankets and tents here... if we need more we will buy em.

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« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2005, 05:20:56 PM »
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I get it. Some people don't, or why did that two IL-76 stay loaded in Ramenskoe airfield for 10 days?

In plain words: It seems to me that accepting blankets and tents is just an act of  "being polite", while for some reasons US refused to accept professional help.

BTW, Russian epidemiological service has some experience too, I wonder why assistance in this field wasn't offered. Or it was, but it's too complicated for media to comprehend?


  Buy some grain. Make some bread or something usefull like that. Nothing from Russia comes without an expected price tag.
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« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2005, 12:57:44 AM »
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TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran offered to send the United States 20 million barrels of crude oil in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina if Washington waived trade sanctions.


Is this the "help" you speak of?

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« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2005, 07:10:58 AM »
I heard Kuwait was going to send us $450M worth of crude for free in order to ease shortages from Gulf (ours not theirs) production. 450 Million dollars seems like a low price for them to pay to have their country back to me.

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« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2005, 07:16:12 AM »
Yes Edbert.. you should write to Kuwait and complain that your country only gets 450.000.000,- $ worth. :D

You serious?

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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2005, 08:12:11 AM »
I think ed has a point.   People died to get their country free from a madman.   They would have nothing if we didn't free them.

I don't expect anything from anyone but...

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« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2005, 08:13:29 AM »
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Im sorry Boroda, but for the first time i have seen you are dead wrong. The money we send go directly to scrapping the oldest or those in the worst conditon first. Living so near to the "nukular das boots" perhaps gives us a different perspectiv than the USA'ers tho.


I am aware about Norvegian help. Norway also supports Arctic research institutes and scientific organisations. You really help, not talk about it. !

I am talking about American "assistance". They once said they want to pay for scrapping nuclear subs, and now they keep boasting as if I only live because they paid me money.

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« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2005, 08:21:05 AM »
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Yes Edbert.. you should write to Kuwait and complain that your country only gets 450.000.000,- $ worth. :D

You serious?


A little bit, yes. I was not really complaining though, sorry if it came accross that way. But the only reason there IS a Kuwait today was because of GWI (and I know that was not  purely US action).

In a country like Kuwait we are not talking about tax dollars, they are royalty (literally), and rolling in cash (literally), that they have only becuase we gave them thier kingdom back (literally). When it was time for them to defend their borders they folded like a cheap napkin.