Author Topic: F4u-4 (Read 1093 times)

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 26, 2005, 05:20:06 AM »

The Ki is the most dangerous dogfighter.

Even when u pure bnz the thing it can be suddenly on ur back again withouth any energy loss. And a good gunner in it can harm u after that pass. Yep any plane can do that but the Ki excells in that.

It also excels in the stall fight just because it recovers real quick giving it a fast chance to turn on ur back.

I really watch out for them.

They like Niks dough everybody is gonna gang it .

Wilbus · « **Reply #16 on:** September 26, 2005, 07:44:46 AM »

Rgr Bug I agree with the Ki84 being the most dangerous Dogfighter.

It's mainly its superior climb and low speed flying that makes it dangerous and that is also what alows it to gain the advantage on a B&Z plane if flown well.

It is far from as easy to fly as the Niki though, or the spits or any of those planes.

EdXCal · « **Reply #17 on:** September 26, 2005, 09:49:43 AM »

Skywolf, your a nimrod. Did you even read the post or did you just pick out the one word you can even come close to understanding?
Also, I don't use the stall limter, Iwins and Olly do, but if you try it you'll see what I mean. Oddly enough, when used in the F4u's with flaps, in the long run you'll outturn anything in tha game and you can't do it without stall limiter.
But to beat them when they do that I just use a Ki-84, I use my better climb and vertical performance against them.

Edward

Edit: I've played for 5 years, I know the game well so try not to think I'm a NewU because I said something about stall limiter. Try it, go into Offline or the TA and turn it on, go into a flat turn and just drop your flaps... Your turn rate will blow an Zero out of the water!!! So try it first before saying anything.

Wilbus · « **Reply #18 on:** September 26, 2005, 11:05:02 AM »

WEll EdXCal, a stall limiter is just that. It limits the airplanes AOA to an extent where it can't spin out. If you can fly the plane without stall limiter you can fly it beyond that stall limiter edge.

No plane with stall limiter will outturn a plane without it.

Noir · « **Reply #19 on:** September 26, 2005, 02:25:49 PM »

I've met some pretty impressive NewU guys....one exemple a guy played AH 2 years offline (can you believe that ?), he shot so many drones that he could shoot fighters easily at d800 with 1 hand in the back, I felt like a noob lol

like we say here, don't sell the bear skin before killing it

SkyWolf · « **Reply #20 on:** September 26, 2005, 05:11:11 PM »

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Originally posted by EdXCal
Skywolf, your a nimrod. Did you even read the post or did you just pick out the one word you can even come close to understanding?

Edward

Dude..... it was a JOKE. Chillax

Howitzer · « **Reply #21 on:** September 26, 2005, 05:57:34 PM »

Well, I'm not sure who you've been fighting for 5 years, or what flight model you've been playing on, but if you get into a slow turnfight with a zeke in an f4-u4, you better start deciding what plane you are going to fly next. At worst that zeke is going to hang with you on the turn, and as you get slower your performance drops and his will go up. If you start flat turning that F4U-4 you are flying it in a way that ignores your strengths. Keep it in the vertical, and keep it fast, thats the only way you are going to beat a zeke everytime.

Widewing · « **Reply #22 on:** September 26, 2005, 06:09:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
EdXCal, the use of stall limiter severly hampers the planes performance. If disabled, a pilot can acomplish things one can not do with it enabled.

Widewing, can we go to TA/DA some day and fight Ki84 vs F4u4?

Would be nice to try!

Edit: Ok I've watched your film, I don't know Rowdy1 from the MA so can't comment on his flying.

However, some possitive critisism, I do not think that he used the Ki84 anywhere near its capabilities in the fight you two had. While he did use it to some extent in the vertical, a loop fight is not where the Ki84 exells. Also, he kept it too fast to really "shine" and show its superior low speed handeling compared to other planes.

Would be very very nice to go and try it with you in the TA Widewing if we can find a time for it.

I'm in the TA every Wednesday and Thursday evening. I would be more than happy to square-off in these fighters.

Rowdy had just tried to fight the F4U-4 with an A6M5 Zeke. There's little a Zero can do with the F4U-4 and the slower he got, the more hopeless things became.

Hence, I suspect he didn't want to get the Ki-84 slowed so much that the same situation ensued. It's my practice not to maneuver with the Ki-84 at speeds below 200 mph. If we slow more than that, I extend away, zoom climb out and use the F4U-4's speed and acceleration to pound the Ki. Generally, the Ki-84 is faced with turning to meet the attack, and like the 190s, the F4U can gain angles at very high speeds.

At speeds above flap deployment, the Ki-84 is merely average in turn performance, and I'd say inferior to the Ki-61. Only at very low speeds can the Ki-84 really shine.

My regards,

Widewing

Noir · « **Reply #23 on:** September 26, 2005, 07:12:17 PM »

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Only at very low speeds can the Ki-84 really shine.

yeah don't turn with the ki84 in anything less that spit5/hurriII, it can hurt

Whisky58 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 27, 2005, 07:14:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Noir

like we say here, don't sell the bear skin before killing it

You have bears in Paris? Mon Dieu!

F4u-4 is fine plane & deserves all the perking it gets, but before you all sell your spouses, kids, homes & jobs to buy one there's some small print you ought to check.

1. Climb to 10k is great if you have already wound it up to 300mph. Other than that its average with a raft of planes leaving it in their wake.

2. Duration on int. tanks 21 mins ie same as La. Ext tanks will affect performance.

Regards