Author Topic: AI fighters (Read 1532 times)

Brooke · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2005, 02:58:31 PM »

I suspect AI opponents will be part of Tour of Duty but not the main arena -- at least I hope this is the way. I'd much rather have at least one place where I know I'm guaranteed to be fighting only other humans. For ToD, though, you'd probably need some AI to fill in in case there aren't enough humans around to flesh out the mission.

slimm50 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2005, 03:30:51 PM »

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It looks like it gets a little confused once you get directly on its 6.

Heh, that coulda been me.

Delirium · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2005, 03:34:45 PM »

Anyone take any films or screen shots?

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2005, 04:54:41 PM »

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Oh mygod! I can hear it now....... Nice HO AI!!!!!!!!! Oh real convient warp there mr AI!!!!! Nice stick stirring AI!!!!!!!! Nice RAM AI jerk!!!!!! Dont run AI!!!!!!! Nice vulch AI!!!! Get under dar AI!!!! you in a Squad AI? AI is a cheater!!!!!!! I got you on film AI Im sending it to HT!! AI is cheating!!!! Nice kill AI i was outa ammo!!!! AI your a loser!!! AI fly a real plane will ya!!!!!! AI is a score potato!!!!! AI is a toolshed killa!!! AI this , AI that!!! lol!!!!! Ought to be great entertainment.

Wow...that is the best CHI impersonation I've seen.

ack-ack

Stang · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2005, 04:57:37 PM »

I'd love to see a bunch of AI la7's unleashed upon a horde of milking toolshedders. Oh man would that be a sight to see, and hear.

Morpheus · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2005, 05:15:19 PM »

I'd really love to know whats going on inside the AI's plane. HT said when I was fighting it, it wasnt chopping throtle. So I could pretty easily regain position in a turn fight just by basicly hitting the breaks. But it was making flat turns like i've never seen anyone make, and at very lose speeds. APar was riding in my plane and we were both laughing because even he noticed hwo well it was just cutting around corners. lol I really hope it had its flaps down is what Im saying. Becuase if HT hasnt learned it the use of flaps, it could rip anyone a new you know what.

LOL stang I was thinking about that. Like a sick joke by Hitech to come into the MA one night and unleash Hitech, Hitech1 Hitech2,Hitech3 and so on all the way up to like Hitech200. LOL! All La7's. My god i think i'd laugh for a week.

daddog · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2005, 06:07:45 PM »

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It looks like it gets a little confused once you get directly on its 6.

I am sure he is modeling the ACM after my fighting style.

Thanks for the info Morph. Wish I could have seen it.

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LOL stang I was thinking about that. Like a sick joke by Hitech to come into the MA one night and unleash Hitech, Hitech1 Hitech2,Hitech3 and so on all the way up to like Hitech200. LOL! All La7's. My god i think i'd laugh for a week.

That would be funny.

MajWoody · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2005, 09:07:07 PM »

Does the AI take ho shots?

Morpheus · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:13:02 PM »

Yep, it does. And you better make sure it doesnt get guns on you. Its aim is super uber. It will fill your skull with 50cals before you know it.

Widewing · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2005, 11:08:01 PM »

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Yep, it does. And you better make sure it doesnt get guns on you. Its aim is super uber. It will fill your skull with 50cals before you know it.

Let's hope they plug in an error factor.... We don't need anymore airborne death lasers....

My regards,

Widewing

Morpheus · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2005, 11:18:50 PM »

I am sure Ht will write that in, something to that effect anyways.

This does give me a renewed excitment for ToD though.

Tilt · « **Reply #26 on:** October 04, 2005, 06:40:41 AM »

I noted that HT mentioned he could adjust the AI "expertise".

I watched it bounce an ac and despatch it with the shortest of bursts.

It was like the AI was "locked on" via the lead computing site.

Speculating

I should imagine that if the AI selected the nearest target (auto tabbed) and flew to its LCS reference

Flew via shortest vector (shortest arc) to give JS angle.

Limited JS deflection by G and "stall limit"

Rudder only to centre the ball.

We then get classic lag pursuit but with a very good (computed)angle.

AI evasives could then be the result of auto tabbing an incoming foe under some rule set. What would seem like an evasive would be AI turning to the new foe's LCS reference via shortest vector.

Expertise would be varied by

Delay time at LCS prior to firing.
Max G setting.
Max "stall limit" setting.

If it had no throttle control you would expect over shoot but good e retention......some potential lawn darting.......but I wonder how you stop it taking the HO ? or avoiding collision?

Speculation to one side......hats off to hitech....... particularly if we get one for offline practice.

Delirium · « **Reply #27 on:** October 04, 2005, 06:51:24 AM »

I don't have as much faith it can be done effectively... there will always be something the AI will be hopeless to defeat without becoming gamey.

Worse yet, having the AI act as individuals instead of a single program all flying the same is harder. Add that in the real players will stick out like sore thumbs, and you get the idea.

I can see the whines now... "I had that pilot since the Battle of Britian, I $()@* quit!"

I hope it all works out, but I'm really not optimistic... most of all of this community when it comes out.

Meatwad · « **Reply #28 on:** October 04, 2005, 10:44:12 AM »

Wilbus · « **Reply #29 on:** October 04, 2005, 11:07:19 AM »

Still don't quite like the idea of AI fighters in ToD. Takes away some of what a "multiplayer" game is IMO. We'll see how it turns out, may be great.

What worries me more though is ToD with a large number of planes up, I get very bad FPS with 30 or so planes around, maybe even with 20 planes around. My FPS drop from 75 to mid 10's.