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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2005, 12:10:29 AM »
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Sorry for the Hijack Toad.


Sorry? How can you be? It's what you do.

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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2005, 12:12:02 AM »
These are just a few of the articles that claim A-Q links to terrorism in France, Iraq, NYC, Bali and numerous other places. I realize nothing would satisfy you that the links are real unless you personally caught OBL in the act of lighting the fuse in one of these places though.

Anyway it would seem that one organization... A-Q.. is actively pursuing terrorist acts in many places and not all of them are linked to the US, or the US in Afghanistan or the US in Iraq.

The link to Van Gogh's murder shows that you don't have to support US military action or even support the US in any way shape or form.

All you have to do is speak ill of Islam and you've added yourself to the list.

Sorry if I was too cryptic for you.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2005, 12:12:29 AM »
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Some people need to look bigger picture and stop focusing on the latest, bieased news they receive.



Humm biased news like about WMD's?  No I think you miss the point .....

The reason for going to Iraq wasn't "to fight the terrorists over there"

How convienaint that the 'latest biased news' paints it that way for you.

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So do you honestly think that if we didn't goto Iraq a major attack would have happend in the US agin?

How did attacking Iraq help make the US safer?

All the data shows more terrorist activity....  

Did saddam have terrorist troubles?

and even if attacking Iraq somehow made us safer..... is it moral to put our percieved safety over the estimated 100,000  dead civilians....

It's not for me..... I'll take my chances
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2005, 12:12:44 AM »
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Sorry? How can you be? It's what you do.


Pot, Kettle.

It's what we all do at one time or another.

Go ahead... tell us you never hijack a thread.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2005, 12:18:42 AM »
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These are just a few of the articles that claim A-Q links to terrorism in France, Iraq, NYC, Bali and numerous other places. I realize nothing would satisfy you ....


Wot?

These are indeed "articles that claim A-Q links to terrorism."

No disagreement there.

Problem is..... your whole entire post was not meant to enlighten evereyone on al Q's terrorist activities.

You were trying to shove it in France's face that, because they didn't support the invasion of Iraq, they still got burned by al Q.

Iraq has nothing to do with al Q. We both know that, and your links don't point to anything different. Quit trying. France supported routing al Q.

Maybe you were trying to make a joke?

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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2005, 12:20:44 AM »
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Pot, Kettle.

It's what we all do at one time or another.

Go ahead... tell us you never hijack a thread.


I respond to what interests me. 99% of the time it's the subject of the post. Sometimes, what somebody says interests me and I'll ask about it. I try not to make it a habit.... unlike Nuke.

Here we go - hijacked.

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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2005, 12:22:55 AM »
Hi Guys,

Islamic terror cells continue to operate in France, because from their point of view, their job is nowhere near finished.

Al-Qaeda, and most of the modern Sunni terror organizations, from the Chechen Rebels to Abu-Sayyaf are all affiliated with the Pan-Islamic "Muslim Brotherhood." The founder of that particular organization, Hasan Al-Bana, wrote long before the current conflict and even before the creation of the modern state of Israel:

"Our task in general is to stand against the flood of modernist civilization overflowing from the swamp of materialistic and sinful desires. This flood has swept the Muslim nation away from the Prophet’s leadership and Koranic guidance and deprived the world of its guiding light. Western secularism moved into a Muslim world already estranged from its Koranic roots, and delayed its advancement for centuries, and will continue to do so until we drive it from our lands. Moreover, we will not stop at this point, but will pursue this evil force to its own lands, invade its Western heartland, and struggle to overcome it until all the world shouts by the name of the Prophet and the teachings of Islam spread throughout the world. Only then will Muslims achieve their fundamental goal, and there will be no more ‘persecution’ and all religion will be exclusively for Allah….”

That particular quote from Al-Banna was taken from an English language tract entitled "To Be a Muslim" which was published in 1996 by the Saudis and distributed to Mosques throughout the Western World, including England and the United States.

Step one in Al-Banna's vision, as far as France is concerned, has been completed. The French infidels have been effectively removed from the middle-east. Step 2, "invading the Western heartland" and "struggling to overcome it" is well underway. That struggle will not cease no matter how far the West chooses to withdraw, appease, or disengage. Hence, France can choose to fight them, or "surrender" which is the actual meaning of the Arabic Islam and implies conversion by submission to the word of the Prophet. In Islam, true "peace" can only come via that submission, as  Al-Banna's quote rightly implies.

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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2005, 12:23:45 AM »
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Humm biased news like about WMD's?  No I think you miss the point .....

The reason for going to Iraq wasn't "to fight the terrorists over there"

How convienaint that the 'latest biased news' paints it that way for you.

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So do you honestly think that if we didn't goto Iraq a major attack would have happend in the US agin?

How did attacking Iraq help make the US safer?

All the data shows more terrorist activity....  

Did saddam have terrorist troubles?


BlueKitty, I could explain it all for you, but you won't listen.

I believe what we did in Iraq was our only option based on a number of factors. The war on Iraq was not as simple as you see it. It was a logical move based on all the cirumstances at the time. But you wont listen, so I won't bother.

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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2005, 12:27:09 AM »
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It was a logical move baseed on all the cirumstances at the time. But you wont listen, so I won't bother.


Oh I remember the circumstances

I remember the protests

I remember people like Ambassador Wilson

What exactly do you remember?

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I guess your just a fan of "the plan for a new american century"

or do you remember that?
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2005, 12:28:40 AM »
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I respond to what interests me. 99% of the time it's the subject of the post. Sometimes, what somebody says interests me and I'll ask about it. I try not to make it a habit.... unlike Nuke.

Here we go - hijacked.


Nash, I reply to things that interest me. You are interested in some of the same things, but are on the opposite side of the fence. I state my views and opinions.

Are you saying I post just random BS and hijack threads for the hell os it? Why not give some examples off the top of your head? Or look up some of my most famous hijacks.

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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2005, 12:31:49 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2005, 12:34:05 AM »
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Oh I remember the circumstances

I remember the protests

I remember people like Amassador Wilson

What exactly do you remember?

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I guess your just a fan for the 'plan for a new american century'

or do you remember that?


in other words, you don't remember anything important or anything specific regarding the history, begining with the first gulf war, Iraqs refusal to obey UN sanctions, fireing at US planes on patrol, kicking the UN inspectors out, or anything like that?

Do you know why Saddam let the UN inspectors back in? Could it possibly be because Bush sent a large force to his door? You can begin with that if you want, but I've got much more.

The reasons are many and justified.

You remember protests, I remember the facts and the logic behind taking Saddam out.

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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2005, 12:35:41 AM »
The reason for going to Iraq wasn't "to fight the terrorists over there"
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correct! lets fight them in New York, London, Madrid.....

Oh I forgot.....9/11 happened after Iraq was invaded.....silly me.

Just wait until the arab nations have a stockpile of nuclear weapons.

bluekitty is who?  schafenfrude?
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2005, 12:35:49 AM »
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You were trying to shove it in France's face that, because they didn't support the invasion of Iraq, they still got burned by al Q.


An incorrect assumption on your part; my point goes way beyond France and focuses on A-Q.

It's all laid out; you choose not to see it.

I think others will see it, but perhaps not.
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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2005, 12:37:16 AM »
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99% of the time it's the subject of the post.


Yah.. shure.  99%. Heh.

Well... it's your memory; remember it the way you like.
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