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« on: October 12, 2005, 05:55:21 AM »
We've had eBay nightmares, so now it's time for Paypal nightmares.

I'm selling some MP3 players on eBay. Out of 100 I've got only 6 left after a month. The vast majority of transactions have been good, with +ve feedback left both ways. But there's always one bad apple in the barrel, or in this case, two.

Pay no attention to those email notifications that come from paypal, confirming that your item has been paid for. They're not worth the paper they're not written on. I encountered the first bad apple after having received notification of payment. In order to provide a fast service I went to the PO that day to despatch the item. AFTER I had done that, I got an email from Paypal saying that "the funds were unauthorised", and that the payment has been reversed. No indication when I'm likely to get my money. At least they refunded the paypal fee, but not the eBay listing and final value fees. :mad:

I was ready for the second bad apple. The eBay name, the Paypal name and the name given in the paypal name and address were all different! (I smelt a rat) I messaged the buyer to find out to whom the item should be sent - no reply. (I smelt another rat) And guess what? The next day I got an email from paypal to say that - you guessed it - the payment had been reversed. :mad: My only loss this time was the cost of the eBay listing and final value fees - about £2.

Warning signs
  • The name/address data is inconsistent
  • Buyer sends you an email asking for a rush job because he's "going away"
^ Add to this list!

In one case, I suspect that the REAL owner of the eBay/paypal accounts had lodgers who had used his computer. If other people have access to your PC, think carefully before using any automatic password fill-in option on your browser.

Paypal claims that it is a "fast, easy and secure way to pay on eBay!". That may be true, but the picture for sellers can be rather different.

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 05:59:09 AM »
Hello ,

I'm Pierre Le  Chasseur and I'm interrested in buying one of your MP3 player.
I'm going on vacation can we have an arrangement so I can have it friday ?

Cheers
Frédéric (ooppppsss :D)

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 10:46:31 AM »
Frédéric -  - ooops, regle seize :lol

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2005, 12:03:45 PM »
I got burned for about $300 from PayPal and will never use it again. Cash, Check or money order and the item ships after payment clears.

There is too much risk in taking credit card or PayPal payments, and the risk is taken soley by the seller. PayPal is not going to eat any charge off, you are.

They do have some rules that, if followed, will protect you from this type of thing, but I found them to be a hassle.

Sounds like things are going pretty well anyway beetle. Good luck with it all.

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2005, 12:35:31 PM »
NUKE! You're back... as NUKE!

Yes it's going well. I won't have made a fortune on this lot because of start up costs, getting the ad format/price right, underestimating ebay fees to begin with, but as an investment, it's dozens of times better than anything any investment institution could offer.

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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2005, 08:42:41 PM »
Hey Beetle, keep in mind that Paypal is able to charge you back at almost any time. Don't keep any money in your PayPal account.....have it transfered to you.

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2005, 10:00:48 PM »
Hey... Nuke's back.

Welcome back, man.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2005, 10:42:32 PM »
Thanks Sandy. You're next, I promise.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2005, 11:10:00 PM »
Nuke!
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Stay thirsty my friends.

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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2005, 03:47:41 AM »
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Originally posted by NUKE
Hey Beetle, keep in mind that Paypal is able to charge you back at almost any time. Don't keep any money in your PayPal account.....have it transfered to you.
:O

My gawd... is that right? Fortunately my transactions are quite small; I don't have all my golden eggs in a very large basket. But in light of what you said, I'm off like greased lightning to withdraw all my funds...

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2005, 03:02:49 PM »
Recently somebody got ahold of my 16 year old daughter's debit card number, and set up a Pay-Pal accouynt with it.  She started noticing charges on her account, and asked me.  I made sure that she hadn't set up an account - it's not something you can do by accident.  Anyway, we called Pay-Pal, and found out that the mailing address for the items purchased was in Sweden.
You'd think that Pay-Pal would think soemthing was a little funny when they are using a debit card from a bank in Arizona, but having the items shipped to Sweden?  They were using my daughters real name on the account, but the "ship to" name and address were in Sweden.  I'd think that was suspicious, but I guess Pay-Pal didn't.
Anyway, after working with them on the phone, all the charges were reversed and the money put bcak into my daughters account.

I hope that Peter Escreptor (sp?) in Sweden suffers from eternal crotch-rot!:mad: