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Offline Nefarious

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« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2005, 07:29:16 PM »
Yeah, when close to England, And Ive dived to escape Aircraft. I will run sumberged during the day at 3 or 4 knots. And usually I will surface an hour after sunset.

I never TC at 1024 unless im out in open water, out of Allied Air Cover, Its March 1941 in my career so I can still operate at 1024 effectively.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2005, 02:37:54 AM »
RW/Nef - thanks for that - I was able to survive by diving to PD and running silent. The only problem was that after a prolonged night time attack on a convoy, my batteries were getting low just as dawn came around. I had to shut down engines and give the crew a day off while we waited for night. It's summer time, and around the inner Hebrides off Scotland, it doesn't get dark till 11pm, and starts getting light again not long after 3am, so there's not much opportunity for recharging the batteries. And after the attack on the convoy I only had 3 torps left, so I RTBed to start another patrol...

...and in that patrol, at x1024 TC on the open waters, I ran into a Clemson which was attacking from a range of more than 2000 metres. I took some damage, but was able to dive to PD, and turn away from the Clemson. It very kindly kept a constant speed and bearing, and I was able to whack it with the stern torp.

I wasn't so lucky the next time. Still on the open seas at x1024 TC, I ran into another DD. By the time the warning came, the DD was already at p***ing distance, my VIIc having suffered catastrophic damage and flooding, and I was soon dead. The issue here is that this would not have happened in x1 TC - my guys would have spotted the DD and/or the sonar man would have detected it. The game does automatically change into x1 from x1024, but in many cases it happens much too late to be of any use. Sitting there at x1 for days at a time while my sub trundles to the assigned sector is not an option, so I think I'll do saves every 2 mins at x1024, and if this situation arises again, just go back to the last save.

I'm just about to download RUB 1.44 to see if this issue has been addressed.

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« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2005, 06:04:15 AM »
Beet...why do you insist on running at x1024?

The reason you have a problem getting nailed at that speed is due to a number of factors, but in general think of it this way:

There is always ALWAYS a delay from the time at which a crew member sights (or a hydrophone operator reports) a contact.  A real delay, not a computer graphics delay.  The reporting crew member sees the target then relays that information to the captain.  It takes only a moment or two BUT if you are running at x1024 that moment is HUGE.  By the time you are able to react the clock "ticks" once.  That "once" is alot of time due to your compression setting.

If you run at x512 you half that moment is reduced by half.  At X256 it is half again.

Try running at a maximum of X256.  I guarentee you won't have the problems with getting surprised.

The only time I run at x1024 is getting out of port or on an Atlantic crossing.
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« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2005, 07:49:49 AM »
Curval

Thanks for your help! :) I'm sure you're right. I will try x256 max from now on. As well as the delay as you described it, I think my (XP2600) CPU has a hard time keeping up. Static temperature is 48°, but SH3 makes it rise to 54°.

But, if covering vast oceans at only x256, I might have to start a campaign - move the sectors closer together (and get rid of day)! ;)

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« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2005, 05:09:15 PM »
512 is good for shorter distances, around England. I use every TC number in different situations.

But if you are spotted during the day you must remain at Periscope Depth for the rest of the day usually.

Just watch out for mines.

Another good tip, Silent Running doesnt help any when in Shallows. Less than 70 or so meters. Best thing to do in a situation where your pinned in shallows, is Flank speed as often as possible, numerous turns, and a strong faith in gott. :)

I dont know why that is, but it seems its easier for the DD's to effectively kill you when your hardly moving, better chances trying to run, Fast instead of slow.
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« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2005, 11:54:53 PM »
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I've had a weird occurance on my computer this weekend.

My DVD drive will recognise movies but when I put a game disk in...any game...it does not recognise that there is a disk in the drive.

It just happened....any ideas?

Probably caused by the insanely destructive StarForce copy protection that Silent Hunter III uses.  StarForce installs hidden drivers that it doesn't tell you about.  These drivers are known to cause system instability and open the low level processes of Win2k/XP up to people who know how to access them (there are scripts in existance for the script kiddies), undoing some of the major security improvements Windows has had in the last 5 years.  It doesn't even uninstall these hidden drivers when you remove the program.

It is also known to intentionally break software that might be used for piracy such as OEM versions of Nero.
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« Reply #66 on: October 25, 2005, 07:49:22 AM »
Fortunately that is not the case Karnak...although it DID cross my mind as I have read some of the threads over at subsim.com about those drivers.

In my case the drive just gave out on me.  Either it was a lemon from the get-go and finally pooped out on me, or the kids did something.  I just don't know.  

Also fortunately I bought a Dell..a Gen 4 XPS..right off the Dell Bermuda website back in January.  I called the tech support people (we have to go through Dell Latin America) and after about ten minutes of mucking around the lady said "Okay...it is under warrenty, we will just replace the drive.  A technician will be out to your home to install it in two or three days."

That was Wednesday night.  On Friday at about 11.00am I got a call asking for directions and was told the guy would be there at 3.30pm to switch out the drive.  At 2.30 he arrived and was gone by 2.45.  

They gave me a faster drive than I had as well.  :aok
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« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2005, 09:03:29 AM »
Curv,

I'm in a new patrol, cruising up the west coast of Ireland. I'm on the surface ahead one third and x256, when boom! We're under attack. :mad: Serious damage...

I tried this again, and slowed it down for the second attempt and dived to PD - gaming the game, perhaps. ;)  It's a Clemson destroyer at medium range, but moves away and disappears. I surfaced when it was safe. It is night time, pitch black. I continued at x256 TC, but then... a plane appears! As before, in x256 TC, the warning comes too late to avoid serious damage. Question: What the hell's a plane doing looking for U-boats in the middle of the night? OK, I know that U96 came under aerial attack in Das Boot, but that was Gibraltar, where they were expecting U-boat traffic.

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« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2005, 09:48:54 AM »
Yea, I've had similar experiences with planes attacking at night.

Not sure how realistic that is, particularly when you are out in the middle of the ocean.  Perhaps a ship in the area detected you or something.

dunno.
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« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2005, 11:46:48 AM »
Depending on your year in the campaign, Aircraft will attack at night, PBY's, Wellingtons, Avengers.

Now I have had aircraft attack at Dusk, where I thought it was questionable as to wether they could or not.
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« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2005, 04:34:01 PM »
Quite a bit of aircraft attacks happened at night... the aircraft (particularly late war) would detect the sub via radar (cavity magnetron units) and often kill their engines and place a spotlight on the sub as they made their run.

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« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2005, 06:09:32 PM »
lol very touchy community over at subsim

I made a mistake and didn't notice "Avon Lady's" Star of David sig and asked if "he" (who is obviously a "she"...I was busy at work..not my best day of posting)was Jewish.  Then everyone starts to get silly about it after I mention that some Jewish friends of mine, and a guy I know at my Rotary Club, aren't thrilled about me playing on the German side.

Apparently Avon Lady is something of an icon over there or something.

I guess I'm no longer part of their little clique community.

OH THE AGONY.
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« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2005, 06:28:30 PM »
Shes very arrogant, People ask questions, then she chimes and in and says, "If you would of used the Search Function", A first time member of that forum, would have an incredibly hard time of navigating that BBS. Its full of stupid image signatures the size of Texas, Avon Ladyz is probably the biggest, Im so glad we dont do that here.

I read the Mods Workshop forum mostly, that game is about to explode with new models. I cant wait :D
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« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2005, 06:34:11 PM »
Ok, all this talk sparked my interest again.  I havent played SH3 since switching to new HDs many months ago.  I reinstalled it, downloaded that RUB thing, and want to continue my old career.  I found the old HD containing all the career files and transferred only the folder of the specific career located in the 'My Documents\SH3' area.  

Is that all that's needed?  If yes, is it compatible with the Real Uboat mod?  I tried loading a save and it crashes mid-load; both RUB loaded and unloaded.  Do I need the config files and anything else from the original install (old HD, heavily modified)?

I was on patrol 20 or so in the old install, many veteren crewmembers, medals, and a huge amount of tonnage... I dont want to start over. :)
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« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2005, 06:44:46 PM »
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Shes very arrogant, People ask questions, then she chimes and in and says, "If you would of used the Search Function", A first time member of that forum, would have an incredibly hard time of navigating that BBS. Its full of stupid image signatures the size of Texas, Avon Ladyz is probably the biggest, Im so glad we dont do that here.

I read the Mods Workshop forum mostly, that game is about to explode with new models. I cant wait :D


I love the guy who compares Dresden to the holocaust...he thinks he is making points with her.  Can't wait to see what she says about that little tidbit.

What a JOKE though.  They all masterbate each other with talk about how great the COMMUNITY is and then pig-pile when someone makes a mistake.  The FDB forums are more friendly than that freakin place...lol.
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