Author Topic: Crazed people of Isam vs Peaceful US? (Read 5132 times)

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #45 on:** September 26, 2001, 07:19:00 PM »

You're prolly right Leonid, I dunno much Middle Eastern history...

They've been fighting for a long time, that's all I know.

-SW

Toad · « **Reply #46 on:** September 26, 2001, 10:58:00 PM »

<Edit> Please read it all.

<EDIT> They changed the address.<EDIT>
http://www.usatoday.com/hear.htm

Yeah, who says they're crazed?

Sample:

"At the Haqquania madrassa, a student who says he has just attended one of bin Laden's training camps pulls out a training manual, called the "encyclopedia," which U.S. officials say is used at the camps in Afghanistan. "Now listen, American, and listen well," says Hussain Zaeef, 21. He reads from Page 12 of the manual: " 'Bomb their embassies and vital economic centers.' That's what I will do to you and your country. I will get your children. I will get their playgrounds. I will get their schools, too. I will get all of you."

Kids.. they're so cute.

It's a cage match, Hundred Years War style.

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Toad · « **Reply #47 on:** September 26, 2001, 11:00:00 PM »

USA: Evil Incarnate.

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AKSWulfe · « **Reply #48 on:** September 27, 2001, 12:06:00 AM »

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I'd like to shove a couple of those wheat bags up Bin Laden's ass...
-SW

-dead- · « **Reply #49 on:** September 27, 2001, 12:35:00 AM »

I think what Thrawn was trying to say is that in a "war" against one group of Islamic fundamentalists which you have previously armed and trained, arming and training another set of Islamic fundamentalists a couple of miles down the road from the first group to help you seems to be not just stupid, but obstinately so. You don't really need to be psychic to see that's going to be trouble later on. Kinda like playing Russian Roulette with an automatic pistol: The outcome is pretty clear cut.

Also it might be smart for the US to pay attention to Canada and learn from them. They don't have Islamic terrorist attacks in their cities. Why is this? What's their secret?

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easymo · « **Reply #50 on:** September 27, 2001, 01:09:00 AM »

Cant help but think about the aid given the Chinese, by us and the brits, during ww2.
You are right, that probably was a mistake.

-dead- · « **Reply #51 on:** September 27, 2001, 01:21:00 AM »

Absolutely

Look where that got you guys.
They helped fund and train Ho Chi Minh too. Seem to recall he wasn't your friend later on, either.
You appear to be arguing against yourself here.

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easymo · « **Reply #52 on:** September 27, 2001, 01:28:00 AM »

They? I notice you are posting from Hong Kong.

-dead- · « **Reply #53 on:** September 27, 2001, 01:33:00 AM »

"They" as in the US & Britain.
And I do apologize for not conforming to your racial stereotyping.

easymo · « **Reply #54 on:** September 27, 2001, 01:42:00 AM »

Racial Stereotyping? Do you have to be Oriental to be Chinese now.

-dead- · « **Reply #55 on:** September 27, 2001, 02:00:00 AM »

Hmm depends what you mean by Chinese and Oriental. Define yer terms.

easymo · « **Reply #56 on:** September 27, 2001, 02:18:00 AM »

If you don't understand the words Chinese, and oriental. I fear we have a language problem that is insurmountable.

BTW. Unlike most Americans who think all North Vietnamese carried AK-47,s I know for a fact that many carried type 56-1 assault rifles. A Chinese copy of the AK. Also the K-50M SMG also a Chinese copy of a Soviet weapon. In fact a long list of supplies and weapons. Thats a lot of money.

Strangely, shortly after the U.S. left Vietnam. The Vietnamese kicked the Chinese bellybutton out of their country. Seems to me, everybody makes a bad investment sooner or later

-dead- · « **Reply #57 on:** September 27, 2001, 02:36:00 AM »

Well to me an Oriental = a person from one of several ethnic groups in Asia. And Chinese = either a person from one of the ethnic groups in China OR a citizen of the People's Republic of China. Either way, yes you have to be Oriental to be Chinese. The PRC won't let anyone be a citizen unless they're one of the 56 different ethnic groups in China. And to be ethnically Chinese makes you ethnically Oriental by default, as Chinese is a sub group of Oriental. But you don't have to be Chinese to be Oriental.
And pointing out that the PRC also armed the Vietnamese and then also got their sorry butts kicked afterwards in 1980 is still arguing against yourself and proving my point. My original argument of "why not stop giving guns to the nutbags?" stands.

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easymo · « **Reply #58 on:** September 27, 2001, 02:58:00 AM »

There are weapons, and then there are weapons. You will notice we don't give Nukes to nut bags. Do you want to talk about where the North Koreans got theirs.

BTW. If I follow your last post corectly. You live in the most raceist country I ever heard of.

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-dead- · « **Reply #59 on:** September 27, 2001, 03:37:00 AM »

You don't give nukes to nutbags!? Funny, I thought George W was in charge of the US nukes. And that Ronald Reagan guy (the one with the Alzheimers) had his finger over the button for a bit too.

Seriously, though - as far as I know only one country has ever actually used nuclear weapons on another country...
I digress.
North Korea is I fear the least of our worries - it will fold soon enough. I believe the PRC have also sold the tech to Algeria and possibly Libya, the loonies. Which yet again illustrates the old "don't give weapons to nutbags" argument as being fairly sound.
Hats off to you Easymo for backing up my argument again.

PS The most racist country? - I dunno, certainly one of the most racist citizenship policies

. Far as I know they never had segregated schools or buses or stuff, except in the Foreign enclosures, pre '49 where there were cute little signs like "No Dogs or Chinese" in Parks and stuff. Check out the Great Wall as well - what's that all about?!?
However, I live in Hong Kong, which ain't the same kettle of fish at all. They'll let you stay in Hong Kong forever once you've been resident for 7 years. And the work visa is a lot less hassle than a green card. Hell even the US 7th fleet get drunk here whenever they're around.

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