Author Topic: Perked because they're rare... (Read 2956 times)

frank3 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2005, 04:43:17 AM »

AnD b29 WItH n00K!!!11!!

straffo · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2005, 07:11:08 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
First off, It's not useless. Up high almost nothing can catch it. It's about due for an update soon too. From what I've read, updated speed and stuff.

It shine certainly but it shine alone ine the MA, without target => useless.

Skilless · « **Reply #17 on:** October 23, 2005, 05:07:38 PM »

Pretty interesting choice. I don't think I've ever seen one...

Treize69 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 23, 2005, 05:20:27 PM »

Thats one of two replicas built in Romania in the Late 80s and early 90s for display at their two main military museums- that one is made to represent the original IAR 80 of 1940 and is on outside display in Bucharest, while the other is made to look like an IAR 81C from the pro-Allied ARR of 1945 an sits indoors.

Unfortunately no intact survivors exist today, and only a few wrecks are known to exist- one of them being in the Black Sea just offshore from the old WWII air base at Mamea.

RTVapor · « **Reply #19 on:** October 23, 2005, 10:50:22 PM »

How bout a Focke-Wulf Ta 183. it is a jet-powered fighter. I think it was used in WW2. well here is an article on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_183
And here is a picture:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.scaleworkshop.com/gallery/images/ta183ca_3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scaleworkshop.com/gallery/images/&h=387&w=640&sz=34&tbnid=vNJ1Yoi2G8MJ:&tbnh=81&tbnw=135&hl=en&start=5&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dta%2B183%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
The pics r in alphabetical order, so scroll towards the bottom to see the Ta-183.

Treize69 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 23, 2005, 11:11:07 PM »

Nope, wasn't built at least not beyond the prototype stage, until after the war (Tank took the design to Argentina). Would have been a damn good plane though, thank god the war didn't last another year.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2005, 12:50:00 AM »

I'm pretty sure the design was copied for Early migs.

Treize69 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2005, 01:49:50 AM »

I've seen experts who vehemently claim that it was the basis for the MiG-15, and ones who just as adamantly contend that the MiG-15 was designed independantly, and just happens to have a similar layout. I think that one will always be open to debate.

In all fairness to the MiG, there are only so many swept wing, single engine layouts available for a late 40s-early 50s era jet that will actually work (look at the F-86), so I dunno.

Oleg · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2005, 02:21:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Treize69
Pe-8 (HUGE later war russian 4-engine bomber)

Pe-8 wasnt later war bomber. It came to service in 1941.
Just FYI.

moot · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2005, 06:29:14 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
[...]From what I've read, updated speed and stuff.

Where'd you read that?

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2005, 09:57:56 AM »

Well, just from reading the Aircraft forum. It doesn't come up often, but when it does, it is said that the TA152 needs a boost in performance.

Then the standard, "Here are my documents of proof why it needs to be higher."

Followed by, "Here are my documents of proof why it needs to stay the same..."

Same stuff that happens with spits and 109s.

Krusty · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2005, 04:24:51 PM »

Pe8 saw very little action, and was mostly used as a diplomatic transport.

However, the TB3, while slow and lumbering, *DID* see lots of use, especially in the south east and in bombing Germany later in the war. Armed with a few light caliber MGs it's not defenseless, but it'd be a sitting duck (but one with long range and decent bomb load)

moot · « **Reply #27 on:** October 25, 2005, 01:04:57 AM »

But any confirmation from Pyro/HTC?

Krusty · « **Reply #28 on:** October 25, 2005, 01:06:14 AM »

lol hell no

This is just forum speculation/discussion!

Oleg · « **Reply #29 on:** October 25, 2005, 01:40:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Pe8 saw very little action, and was mostly used as a diplomatic transport.

Wrong. Pe-8 was used as transport, but much more often as bomber. Unlike american heavy bombers, Pe-8 bombed frontline and close to front objects mostly. In particular, they drop few 5000kg bombs on Kenigsberg's fortifications and in Kursk. Nevertheless, they participated in raids to german's hinterland during all war from august 41.

Only ~100 Pe-8 was built.