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Offline Treize69

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2005, 05:09:53 PM »
And if the Prince of Wales and Repulse are any indication, they wouldn't have been hiding long...
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2005, 08:40:53 PM »
i dont meen to urinate in the tea, but if it never went into production, why put it in game? also, it has poor rear visability so you couldnt see people behind you.

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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2005, 08:52:11 PM »
It did go into production... 3 production models were made. Those 3 fought against the allies, and were even loaned to a front line combat unit that no doubt used them in combat. There are also kill claims from the pilots of these planes.

So like I said only 3 of them, but they fought. Would be interesting (some day).

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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2005, 01:05:30 AM »
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And if the Prince of Wales and Repulse are any indication, they wouldn't have been hiding long...

They aren't.  The Japanese were vastly better trained for attacking ships than were the Germans, not to mention better equipped for it.  Further the RAF would have provided some air cover with its remaining fighters.  Yes, the RN would lose ships, but the Germans would lose their entire invasion force.  Any paratroopers the Germans dropped would have caused problems and then been killed or captured when their supplies ran out.

These are not my opinions, they are the opinions of those far better and more knowlegable than I.

Think of how long the US and Commonwealth had to plan for Overlord.  How many vessels they designed and built for the task.  The intricate planning of suppy lines they did.  The Germans had none of that.  They had an ad hoc fleet of transport vessels and essentially no logistical planning.  Sea Lion was impossible to win in 1940 for the Germans.


Battleships had lost their primacy certainly, but they had not become weak, harmless units.  They were still the second most potent warships.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2005, 01:57:58 AM »
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It did go into production... 3 production models were made. Those 3 fought against the allies, and were even loaned to a front line combat unit that no doubt used them in combat. So like I said only 3 of them, but they fought. Would be interesting (some day).


I like this, 3 fought against the allies, yet... were even loaned out to a front line combat unit that no doubt used them in combat

ROFL....

Give times, places, pilots, and above all a confirmation sheet signed that shows this.

Otherwise this goes on the:

 ya hear about the spit that shot down a UFO story.

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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2005, 11:47:18 AM »
Uh, no.. This is not just some "tall tale" about ufos. It's not even close. It comes from a book. You know, book? That think you never read? The thing the teachers are yelling at you to look into? That thing.

All *I* know is that they were loaned to a front line bf110 unit in Norway in 1940. They performed there much better than the bf110s, and the pilots (in this front line unit, who actually fly combat and whatnot) said that they preferred it much more than the bf110. Considering that the Germans flew prototypes into battle, I doubt the loan of these planes to a front line unit would have them fly it and NOT fly it in actual missions.

REGARDLESS, the kills that were claimed on this plane were not claimed while it was in Norway. They were claimed while it was flying protection over the factory itself. That is how the book read, to me.

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2005, 09:11:12 PM »
Fw187, in it original form single seat form was basically the the 1939 version of the 1945 DeHavilland Hornet. It was really dumb that this plane was not produced insead of the 110.

Here is the original idea for Fw187, a clean single seater 50mph faster than contemporary 109s and with a bubble canopy.


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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2005, 12:15:12 AM »
It's not really a bubble.. it has limited rear view like the A-0 had. It just "slid" backwards, like a Fw190 cockpit did (backwards and up, in this case).

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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2005, 12:30:14 AM »
Looks like a mossie

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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2005, 12:53:30 AM »
It kinda does... a low-wing mossie with metal instead of wood.

I wonder if that means it's stronger? Lighter? (It takes less metal to equal wood, strength for strength, right? I don't know)

Maybe able to withstand Gs better? Better dive due to metal frame?

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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2005, 01:00:37 AM »
It's a lot smaler and lighter than a mossie. Like I said it was a 1939 german version of this 1945 british plane:

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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2005, 01:07:34 AM »
Oh, you said HORNET.. sorry. heh..