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Offline Chairboy

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« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2005, 06:22:05 PM »
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well, i never owned a handgun, and i doubt i will own a gun in the
future, i just cant imagine why i should own one here ? no need.
Ghostft, look up "Kristallnacht" some day.

In regards to the sony issue, they've just announced a 'service pack' to remove the offending software.  Hopefully this'll discourage others from following with their own DRM software.
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« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2005, 06:58:31 PM »
Chairboy, i understand that some people have issues with Sonys
DRM, i cant change it.

But why you come up with the Kristallnacht is beyound me, sorry.
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« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2005, 09:24:51 PM »
Wired Followup article.


Wired News Staff  |   Also by this reporter

02:07 PM Nov. 02, 2005 PT

Sony BMG is facing a cacophony of criticism this week following the revelation that some of its CDs are packed with special copy-protection software that conceals itself with an advanced hacker cloaking technique. We think the company is getting off easy.

The firestorm began when Mark Russinovich, a computer security expert with Sysinternals, discovered evidence of a "rootkit" on his Windows PC. Through heroic forensic work, he traced the code to First 4 Internet, a British provider of copy-restriction technology that has a deal with Sony to put digital rights management on its CDs. It turns out Russinovich was infected with the software when he played the Sony BMG CD Get Right With the Man by the Van Zant brothers.

A rootkit is a particularly insidious type of Trojan horse that hides its existence from users and programs by tampering with the operating system on the most fundamental level. Where normal malicious code might be content to choose a deceptive file name, a rootkit "hooks" operating system calls that might reveal its presence, and essentially reprograms them to lie -- like bribing the coroner to conceal a murder.

And the lie the First 4 Internet code tells is a whopper. Under the program's influence, Windows will deny the existence of any file, directory, process or registry key whose name begins with "$sys$." Russinovich verified this by making a copy of Notepad named "$sys$notepad.exe," which promptly vanished from view.

That means that any hacker who can gain even rudimentary access to a Windows machine infected with the program now has the power to hide anything he wants under the "$sys$" cloak of invisibility. Criticism of Sony has largely focused on this theoretical possibility -- that black hats might piggyback on the First 4 Internet software for their own ends.

On Wednesday, Sony answered its critics by promising to issue a patch that allows antivirus software to pierce First 4 Internet's cloaking function. But in our view, the hacker and virus threat is something of a red herring. The harm of the Sony DRM scheme is not that it enables evildoers, but that Sony itself did evil.

We needn't go skulking through the computer underground to find malicious action here. By deliberately corrupting the most basic functionality of their customers' computers, Sony broke the rules of fair play and crossed a bright line separating legitimate software from computer trespass. Their actions may be civilly actionable.


!! IMPORTANT PART !!


Sony may even have committed a crime under the U.S. Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which can carry fines and prison terms for anyone who "knowingly causes the transmission of a program ... and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage, without authorization, to a protected computer." Corrupting Windows so it misreports the contents of a hard drive sounds a lot like "damage," and the click-wrap license agreement on the Sony disk amounts to pretty thin "authorization" -- disclosing only that "this CD will automatically install a small proprietary software program ... intended to protect the audio files embodied on the CD."

Nor are we comforted by assurances from First 4 Internet's CEO Mathew Gilliat-Smith, who, in an interview with CNET's News.com, defended his software this way: "For the eight months that these CDs have been out, we haven't had any comments about malware (malicious software) at all." Rootkits, like other cover-ups, rarely generate complaints before they're discovered.

!! Rest of the BS !!

Sony should immediately disclose the full details of its deployment of the First 4 Internet software, and assure the public that it will not use similar tactics in the future. Honest programs have no need to conceal themselves or their actions from users. Honest companies, too.
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« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2005, 10:05:13 PM »
I don't recall having these issues when my living room was full of Vinyl and Cassette Tapes :)
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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2005, 01:09:26 AM »
See Rule #7
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« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2005, 02:39:00 AM »
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Vulcan, that 20 copy purchase sent a message to some marketing analyst which says, copy-protection is a good thing.  It does not hurt sales.  Let's do more!


You're forgetting the 20 guys that didn't buy because they've learn't about warez, and that next time round this group will shrink too from their BF2 experience.

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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2005, 05:25:55 AM »
1. You can uninstall the rootkit software by going to http://cp.sonybmg.com

2. The movie and music industry tried as hard as they could to ban the manufacture of video tape recorders and cassette recorders. They lost in court. They do not need the legal system anymore since they have a virtual partnership with Microsoft, and Microsoft has more power than all the laws and any court.

3. What is wrong with the owners of copyrighted material protecting their material? I say nothing, as long as all caveats and restrictions on the material are clearly spelled out at the time of sale. The problem could be solved in about a month if a reasonably intelligent mix of legal and technical people sat down and thought about it in good faith.

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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2005, 05:32:41 AM »
Nothing better than the EULA changing with a patch, or you buying the product without being able to read the EULA inside it beforehand, only to realize, once it's bought, that you disagree to it.. no refund.
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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2005, 07:11:19 AM »
The media proving ignorance sells.  The reason people are using the 'piggy-back' argument is due to Sony not breaking any laws at all.  They are well within thier right, as any company is, to install anything they want to install, without your knowledge, under the auspice of DRM.

Nobody really cares about the true source of the problem here.  Amazing.  You think DRM just magically appeared in the operating system one day?  Each phase of the implementation has been adding more and more to the structure of DRM.
Vista/Longhorn will see the completion of the implementation, with not only software support, but support for the new hardware implementations coming from AMD/Intel.

This is not paranoia at work.  If you have been keeping up on DRM, you would know about what is coming and how it is going to be implemented.  The reason it is happening is due to no one really taking any time to write thier various representatives and complain about it.  The media only covers what they can exploit, such as this fine example.  Providing any press coverage which could hurt it would be akin to shooting themselves in the foot.

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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2005, 07:33:33 AM »
Don't we use MS products under license? You don't really own your copy of Windows, or any other MS product......or am I mistaken?

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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2005, 07:53:44 AM »
Good for them!  Maybe folks can go back to actually paying for music and movies again! Maybe better games will be the result!

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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2005, 08:00:23 AM »
A new set of DRM laws created huge controversy here in Finland. The record industry lobbed a new set of laws that take basic rights of the consumer away and hand them to content creators.

Starting from next year it will be punishable by law to circumvent any copy protections, sell equipment for that purpose or even discuss cryptography in public. That's right, the people are forbidden to write books, web pages or whatever if the subject is cryptography/DRM.

At the same breath they banned importing media from other regions for sale. Which effectively means total market control for the corporations - they can price their products for the region as they wish along with being able to fully choose which media we can buy / see and use.

The e-mails, snailmails and phones were flooded with complaints. There were demonstrations on street (which is unheard of in Finland - I've never heard of anything being demonstrated) and still the DRM law was pushed through in record breaking (pun intended) time.

One of the arguments during preliminary processing of the law was 'but only 1-2% of the media is digitally protected'. After the law was passed by the president BMG announced that every future title to be sold would be DRM controlled.

They're criminals. They are our enemy. Fight them. Don't just write to your congressman - they can and will be bought by them. Only way we can affect is by refusing to buy their crap.
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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2005, 08:03:16 AM »
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Nobody really cares about the true source of the problem here.  Amazing.  You think DRM just magically appeared in the operating system one day?  .


what is the true source of the problem?

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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2005, 08:16:29 AM »
The true source of problem is the stock exchange. People who stop at nothing to maximise profit. And the fact that we're moving to Orwell society slowly but surely if big money gets its way through.
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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2005, 08:18:26 AM »
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The true source of problem is the stock exchange. People who stop at nothing to maximise profit. And the fact that we're moving to Orwell society slowly but surely if big money gets its way through.


Maybe Finland is, but I don't buy it.

I want to know what Skuzzy feels is the problem, because I don't see a problem.