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Offline megadud

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« on: November 03, 2005, 10:51:28 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2005, 10:55:49 PM »
Has anyone been paying close attention to this bird flu thing?

I haven't.... except that you have to be living in a cave not to hear those two words every day for the last month.

So... Does anybody in the know have an idea on what it actually means?

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2005, 11:02:57 PM »
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Has anyone been paying close attention to this bird flu thing?

I haven't.... except that you have to be living in a cave not to hear those two words every day for the last month.

So... Does anybody in the know have an idea on what it actually means?

It means the young will be at more risk of dying.  The older, healthier folks who've been exposed to many flu viruses have a better chance of fighting it off.

It also means that no shark attacks have been in the news.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2005, 11:25:31 PM »
Birds gets a type flu virus like humans do. though it doesn't readily cross species between birds and humans. the flu virii can and do easily cross species in pigs from both humans and birds.
reason it is dangerous is because of the possible mutations in the virus to become extremely deadly for one or the other species. doesn't really take much for flu to mutate. most usually mutates into a form that isn't really deadly to either species, but (stress the but) once in a long great while it'll mutate into a form that a species' immune system can't handle at all (except for some), thats when flu kills.

based on historical records it has been a long great while, and the CDC feels like it is time for a deadly type to emerge and kill millions like a type of flu did in 1918 (I think it was 1918??? if my memory serves me correctly, it  was the main reason WW1 ended. both sides too sick to fight and dying from flu.)

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2005, 11:55:56 PM »
silly gits.. all birds fly.. almost...

i'll get excited when i hear a penguin flu.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2005, 03:05:59 AM »
i'm glad you all got the joke :rolleyes:

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2005, 07:50:40 AM »
Nash, here's the basics:
The bird flu virus (H5N1) is spreading throughout the wild and domestic bird populations. The virus can infect humans and cause a severe and often fatal form of flu. But so far, the virus doesn't spread from person to person -- the only way to get it is from sick birds. And the vast majority of people don't spend a lot of time around sick birds so it's no big deal.

The worry is that the virus could mutate, allowing person-to-person transmission. Recent studies have shown this has happened before, most notably in the 1918 pandemic that killed millions of people. If this happens, it will be difficult to contain and would become a very big deal.

The chance of this mutation is stochastic -- essentially random -- a roll of the dice. So nobody can predict when and if this will happen. But as the virus becomes more and more common in birds, the chances of such a mutation goes up -- the more times you roll the dice, the more chance of eventually getting snake eyes.

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The older, healthier folks who've been exposed to many flu viruses have a better chance of fighting it off.


Not necessarily. Nobody has immunity to H5N1, because they've never been infected before. There would be very little cross immunity to a different flu strain -- that's why they have to create a new flu vaccine every year, the strains mutate. The mortality rate of the 1918 pandemic was especially high in young adults.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2005, 08:14:25 AM »
It is a neo con right wing conspiracy unleashed upon the people to kill off all the young guys who wear cool shoes.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2005, 08:26:40 AM »
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Not necessarily. Nobody has immunity to H5N1, because they've never been infected before. There would be very little cross immunity to a different flu strain -- that's why they have to create a new flu vaccine every year, the strains mutate. The mortality rate of the 1918 pandemic was especially high in young adults.


I know, I just thought it sounded dramatic and, again, there are no shark attacks in the news, so something has to be news worthy.  Here's alittle blip on the Spanish flu epidemic in 1918:
One of the most unusual aspects of the Spanish flu was its ability to kill young adults. The reasons for this remain uncertain. With the Spanish flu, mortality rates were high among healthy adults as well as the usual high-risk groups. The attack rate and mortality was highest among adults 20 to 50 years old. The severity of that virus has not been seen again.

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2005, 10:12:18 AM »
Just more BS fear mongering by the newsies.


If you fear it you will watch. That should be the new CNN moto.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2005, 10:16:47 AM »
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Just more BS fear mongering by the newsies.


If you fear it you will watch. That should be the new CNN moto.


In that case, Bush should stop watching television.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2005, 10:21:14 AM »
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In that case, Bush should stop watching television.



Yeah no ****.


What a ****ing world we live in.  

It is like a planet wide loto, we prolly wont "get" the winning number, not worth worrying about.

If we do tons will die the government will fall and if you live, you get to rebuild, if not well, you wont have anything worry about then.