Author Topic: Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4  (Read 11460 times)

Offline Krusty

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 26745
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2005, 07:02:28 PM »
Just looking at war time photos of the thing, it seems that MOST did not have the BK5, but a good number did have it.

Offline *NDM*JohnnyX

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 202
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2005, 07:04:01 PM »
Got this from another message board:

 



Me-410

Type: Two-seat tactical aircraft for fighter, attack and recon duties plus specialized variants

Origin: Messerschmitt AG

Models: A and B series

First Flight: December 1942

Engine: (A) Two Daimler-Benz DB 603A inverted liquid cooled V12
Horsepower: 1,750 hp ea.

(B) Two Daimler-Benz DB 603G inverted liquid cooled V12
Horsepower: 1,900 hp ea.

Dimensions:

Wing span: 16.4m (53 ft. 7.75 in.) Length: 12.45m (40 ft. 10 in.)
Height: 3.10m (14 ft. 0.5 in.) Wing Surface Area: N/A

Weights: Empty: 6,150kg (13,560 lbs.)
Maximum: 10,650kg (23,483 lbs.)

Performance:

Maximum Speed: 620km/h (385 mph) Initial climb: 650m/min

Range (with full bomb load): 1,447 miles (2330 km)
Service Ceiling: 32,800 ft. (10,000m)

Armament:
Two remotely controlled powered barbettes on sides of fuselage each housing one 13mm MG 131

And

Internal weapons bay housing various combinations of weapons ranging from 7.92mm MG 17 machine guns, MG 151's, Mk 108 30mm cannon, BK5 50mm cannon with 21 rounds all the way up to 210mm rockets in a rotary tube configuration (tested, but poor results prevented front-line use).

Or

Two 1,102 lb. (500kg) Bombs

And

External Racks for two 1,102 lb. (500kg) Bombs

Plus

Two Ruestatz external packs housing Mg 151, Mk 108 or Mk 103 cannons were fitted to some variants

Avionics:

SN-2 Lichtenstein Radar on Me 410A-2/U-2 Night Fighter

FuG 200 Hohentwiel ASV (air/surface vessel) Radar on Me 410B-6 Anti-Shipping variant.


Source http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/me410.htm

Offline Raptor

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7577
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2005, 07:16:23 PM »
Did it have counter rotating props? If not I think in AH it would be like the Moss and 110 now with some of those nasty stalls.

Offline *NDM*JohnnyX

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 202
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2005, 07:21:05 PM »
Close up of the rotary rocket bay:


Offline Krusty

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 26745
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2005, 07:21:06 PM »
No to the counter-rotating.

I think that info was copied directly from luftwafferesourcegroup or whatever the site is called. They said the exact same stuff. They're not alwas 100%, but it's a good idea of what the plane had

Offline *NDM*JohnnyX

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 202
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2005, 07:23:42 PM »
There really isn't that much info on this thing, it seems like it made a good showing of itself during its service...that 8 20mm setup has got to rock.

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23046
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2005, 10:00:17 PM »
It is one of the aircraft that I'd most like to see in AH.  I doubt it would replace my Mossie, but it would definately be added to my favorites list.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline *NDM*JohnnyX

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 202
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2005, 07:22:36 AM »
The nose really looks like an A-10 Warthog.

Offline lasersailor184

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8938
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2005, 08:10:38 AM »
Well, the Cannon on the A10 was nearly that big.

Have you ever seen the bullets for that thing?  Frickin huge!
Punishr - N.D.M. Back in the air.
8.) Lasersailor 73 "Will lead the impending revolution from his keyboard"

Offline *NDM*JohnnyX

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 202
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2005, 08:40:30 AM »
ack, edit, that pic was huge

I have one of those, it's deactivated, I'll post a better pic later.

Offline Blixen

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 877
      • http://475thfg.bravehost.com/
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2005, 09:42:14 AM »

Offline Blixen

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 877
      • http://475thfg.bravehost.com/
Also ME 309
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2005, 09:51:55 AM »

Type: Me 309V4
Function: fighter
Year: 1943 Crew: 1 Engines: 1 * 1475hp Daimler-Benz DB605B
Wing Span: 11.00m Length: 9.93m Height: 3.43m Wing Area: 16.50m2
Empty Weight: Max.Weight: 4870kg
Speed: 580km/h Ceiling: 12000m Range: 1100km
Armament: 2*g30mm 2*mg20mm 4*mg13mm

Offline Krusty

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 26745
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2005, 11:19:20 AM »
I don't trust your info on the Me309 there.. For all intents and purposes it was a flop. Plus no 109 derivitage could carry that many guns (no place for them!!)

Offline Blixen

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 877
      • http://475thfg.bravehost.com/
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2005, 04:19:11 PM »

Offline 1K3

  • Parolee
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3449
Messerschmitt Me 410A-1/U4
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2005, 04:19:47 PM »
werent "Zerstoters" (Bf-110 and Me-410) withdrawn in daylight anti - bomber defense when longer range escort fighters such as P-51 destroyed alot of them?