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Offline Gunslinger

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« on: December 09, 2005, 06:51:02 PM »
I got this in an email today.  Kinda scary stuff if you think about it, but I can't vouch for the credibility of the writer.

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from the November 01, 2005 eNews issue
Reports indicate that Iran is planning to assist Syria with its chemical warfare program. Iran will aid Syria in the development and initial operation of about five facilities for the production of sarin nerve agents, mustard blister agents, and even VX poison gas – the deadliest nerve agent ever created. With Iran’s help Syria hopes it can eventually achieve independent production capability.

Revelations about Syria’s chemical weapons program couldn’t come at a worse time. Currently Syria is under tremendous pressure from the international community to cooperate with UN investigators who are looking into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. The United States, Britain, and France, all permanent Security Council members, have proposed a resolution threatening tough sanctions on Syria if it doesn't cooperate with the UN probe. Hariri and 19 other individuals were killed in a bombing in Beirut in February. It is widely believed that Syria is directly responsible for Hariri’s death. However, instead of silencing an influential critic, Syria has made Hariri a martyr and brought international attention to the situation in Lebanon. Hariri’s death was the catalyst that brought about the Syrian withdrawal from Lebanon. Syria removed its troops in April, ending its 29-year military presence in the war-torn nation.

Many experts believe that a large-scale confrontation between Israel and its neighbors could be on the near horizon. Thus making Syria’s growing relationship with nations such as Iran and Russia more concerning. Over the past year or so, partly as a consequence of the war in Iraq, Russia has been carefully cultivating ties with Turkey, Iran and Syria. After losing the Mid-East foothold provided by Saddam Hussein's Iraq, the Russians have been building a new axis of power based on those three key countries. Russia is now Turkey's second-largest trading partner, with a volume of $10 billion in trade per year. Russia has also strengthened ties with Iran by supplying it with nuclear-related technologies. Earlier this year Russia and Syria made plans to increase diplomatic and military cooperation. Russia wrote-off approximately 10 billion dollars of Syria’s Soviet-era debt and has supplied Syria with Russian made SA-18 surface-to-air missiles, in spite of Israel’s objections.

In a related development, the Palestinian Authority recently disclosed that Russian military experts have been sent to the Gaza Strip to train Palestinian security forces. In addition to training, Russia is prepared to provide the Palestinians with armored vehicles, ammunition, and helicopters. However Israel is adamantly opposed, and has refused to sign-off on the deal.

The increased military cooperation between the Palestinians, Syria, Iran, Russia, and Turkey could be a sign that the famed battle prophesied in Ezekiel 38 and 39 is on our near horizon. It is during this battle, that God will directly intercede to protect Israel from Magog and its allies. The Magog Invasion is just one of the Strategic Trends that we monitor on a regular basis, for more information check out our website.


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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2005, 06:57:08 PM »
Do they have any aluminum tubes?
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Re: Strategic Trends
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2005, 02:10:46 AM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I got this in an email today.  Kinda scary stuff if you think about it, but I can't vouch for the credibility of the writer.


I'd say ask the O'club Chaplin

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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2005, 02:41:15 AM »
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Do they have any aluminum tubes?


Or yellow cake?

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Re: Re: Strategic Trends
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2005, 02:51:00 AM »
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I'd say ask the O'club Chaplin

Seagoon


I didn't get it from Seagoon.


EDIT:  I can honestly say I didn't read the last paragraph till now.  Either way the links are pretty solid.  Interesting stuff to say the least.
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Re: Re: Re: Strategic Trends
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2005, 08:39:39 AM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I didn't get it from Seagoon.


EDIT:  I can honestly say I didn't read the last paragraph till now.  Either way the links are pretty solid.  Interesting stuff to say the least.


I know you didnt....well I didnt "know" but I did assume you didnt.
which was why I suggested asking him :)
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Offline john9001

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2005, 12:55:07 PM »
it's not true, the "neo-cons" made it all up to steal more oil from the arabs.

no money for oil, or something like that.

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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2005, 04:00:48 PM »
Looks like a job for the "101st Fighting Keyboardist".

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On a serious note, that region is the powder keg, no question about it.  We either go in for real, in an all-out campaign, or we don't go in at all.  

These guys putz around long enough and they just might figure out how to produce honest-to-goodness WMD's.  

I'd say we should just shift our combat troops towards both countries after we liberate Iraq.  We obviously can't stop with Iraq that is a fact.  The evil will just shift to Syria, or Iran or Yemen.  And our effort in Iraq will have been for nothing if that is allowed to happen.

We win our victory in Iraq, and it's very close to that now, and we should keep going to show the world that we will not stand idly by while countries that sponsor terrorism and hate develop WMD's.

That's the challenge.  You run the risk of wasting the effort in Iraq, if just one Middle East regime gets their hands on WMD's.  So we have to keep going.  Or at the very least, create a situation in Iraq that we can use that country as our base of operations.  We should keep a large contigent of combat troops there to be ready if a Syria or Iran gets WMD's.  Then we can move quickly and forcefully.

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2005, 12:45:11 PM »
Hi Guys,

Only just found this as I was going back over old threads, my apologies for not spotting it before.

My answer to your inquiry probably isn't going to satisfy anyone on either side, but over the years I've gotten used to getting hit by traffic going in both directions. ;) I'm also going to have to massively condense a lot of background information in order to reply here.

First off, as the origin of the email. This was an " eNews - Strategic Trends Update" sent out on November 1st, by an organization called "Koinonia House" a Christian "internet ministry" which was founded by Chuck Missler.

Chuck views his calling primarily to be relating current news articles with biblical end times prophecies. In this he follows the lead of Hal Lindsey his friend and mentor. Hal was the author of the famously wrong yet influential and widely reprinted "Late Great Planet Earth" in this book Hal predicted that Brezhnev was the Anti-Christ and that the Soviet Union would take over America (amongst other things). Missler belongs to a school of dispensational premillenialism that is convinced we are living in the end, end, times and which seeks to determine which prophecies are coming to pass by reading the bible through the lens of the news. Unfortunately, this has resulted in much false setting of dates and boatloads of erroneous correlations. Despite the fact that this has established that their hermeneutic (method of biblical exegesis and interpretation) is fundamentally flawed, the theory seems to be "keep trying, you're sure to get it right someday." This current article, for instance, is by no means Koinonia House's first attempt at a current events/Ezekiel 38 & 39 correlation and probably will not be the last.

So what does the Bible teach for sure about Ezekiel 38 and 39? Well for a longer article with my take on these chapters that will probably bore the living daylights out of most people, you can check out: The Final Doom of Gog and Magog Be warned, you aren't going to find any flashy current events/bible prophecy match-ups or the identity of the Antichrist in it. Neither do I believe that these chapters are speaking merely of the human enemies of the modern state of Israel, far from it... (Please keep in mind that prophetic language uses allegorical language to speak of literal things and events. For instance Zion is not only a mountain in Palestine, it is widely used as a symbol for the covenant community, heaven, and the Kingdom of God.)

Here's the conclusion:

"Chapters 38 and 39 of Ezekiel describe a final cataclysmic battle between Gog and his armies and the Lord that results in the utter devastation of all who oppose the Lord and his people Israel. Here we see a great example of the principle that due to the progressive unfolding of revelation, "what is in the old concealed, is in the new revealed." It was not until the writing of the book of Revelation many hundreds of years later, that it became evident exactly what these chapters in Ezekiel where pointing towards. By using language directly taken from these chapters in his narratives of the final battle between Christ and the antichrist, the Apostle John makes it clear that Ezekiel’s message was not pointing towards a battle that would involve only the human enemies of Israel. Instead Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 are a description of the final defeat of the antichrist and his followers from all the nations of the earth, who, in attacking the "camp of the saints and the beloved city" (Rev. 20:9), meet their doom in the "mountains of Israel" (Ezek. 39:4). Both of these passages are references to Mt. Zion, the dwelling place of God in the Old Testament.

John has revealed to us that Ezekiel 38 and 39 are, in fact, the narrative of the last battle of the Beast, Satan’s pawn. Gog is the great pretender who exalts himself and tries to take the crown of Christ, and destroy the bride of the Lamb. In that final battle, the false Christ, Gog, comes from his dwelling place, "Magog" (Ezek. 38:2) the false Zion of the North, gathering by lies and deceit his false church from the "four corners of the earth" (Rev. 20:8). Instead of the glory he desires, like Sodom, his inheritance is not the kingdom (Matthew 25:34), but rather fire. Fire that comes from heaven to consume his armies (Ezek. 38:22; 39:6, Rev. 20:9) and the fire of eternal punishment in Hell (Rev. 19:20, Rev. 20:9). This is the final doom of Gog and Magog."
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2005, 12:51:22 PM »
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Currently Syria is under tremendous pressure from the international community to cooperate with UN investigators who are looking into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.


Hehe, Define "Pressure."
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2005, 06:25:26 PM »
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