Author Topic: If roads were flat (Read 1059 times)

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #30 on:** November 07, 2005, 07:03:36 PM »

Laz, maybe that's the Euro influence? As far as I'm concern, 100% choped top mercury inspired:cool:

J_A_B · « **Reply #31 on:** November 07, 2005, 07:07:13 PM »

Thanks for the additional link moot.

Seats aside, I'd consider it my second favorite Aussie "concept" car, my favorite being a modified '73 Ford Falcon XB GT which is of some notoriety. The Holden designers definately have the right idea.

J_A_B

lazs2 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 08, 2005, 08:19:31 AM »

Sorry... don't see any porche influence at all... the deck and fenders are pure 50's-60's custom. The only way you could get a euro influence out of it is if you were to say that 50's American cars were euro influenced. This is a stretch because..

It was allways the 50's American cars that euros pointed at with so much disdain... it is really funny to see an early American lead sled custom being tounted as tres chicke by the effite euros who badmouthed such cars for decades.... and..... now claiming influence! it is really too much.

lazs

Staga · « **Reply #33 on:** November 08, 2005, 08:55:30 AM »

If you look at pre-war Talbot-Lago T150 or Alfa 6C / 8C you'll find lots of custom tricks which were "re-invented" in US amongst custom builders.
Looks like that Holden is a mix of everything but made with pretty good taste.

Reminds me of that Russian Volga M21 (http://www.gaz21volga.com/Custom/alevelv12/alevelv12.htm) which in it's new shape is looking just like a bit customed Facel Vega...

lazs2 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 08, 2005, 09:03:37 AM »

sheesh... look at all the boat tail speedsters from the 20's and 30's.. look at the chrysler airflow and studebakers... hell... look at the chevy fleetliners..

I am sure that all cars have something in common but to say that the car in question is anything but a pure retro early American lead sled is ludicrous.

I just think that it is funny that the effite euros that turned up their noses at the customs of the American scene are now claiming parentage. Barris and winfield and co. will be laughing in their graves.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 08, 2005, 09:07:09 AM »

take a quick look.. euro boys..

http://www.carnut.com/photo/sled/sled.html

lazs

Torque · « **Reply #36 on:** November 08, 2005, 10:25:45 AM »

1953 Holden FJ

“Invariably, people smile when they see it for the first time. EFIJY is our accolade to the talented designers who cut loose with some fantastically flamboyant styling in the post-war 1940s and 1950s.”

“Ask the question, ‘what would these people have created using all the skill sets and technology we have now’, and EFIJY might be the all-Australian answer to that question."

Ferlazzo

lazs2 · « **Reply #37 on:** November 08, 2005, 02:31:45 PM »

53 holden... 52 chevy... bout the same car...

steinhoff... you would have to look at a lot of fleetline fastback Chevys and custom 51 mercs and other lead sleds to see it but that car is a direct copy of allmost every styling trick the customs builders here did during the 50's and 60's and of which there is a resergence today...

Even the idea of making wheelcovers that look like olds or caddy ones but fit 17,18 or bigger wheels is being done by custom guys here right now... Jay leno's car is a good example. Sorry but... the porches they sent here never looked anything like the rear of that car.. fenders with reverse curve and chrome rock guards? 50's era vette tailights and... How can you say there is no boat tail or studebaker influence?

As for the aussies... they have some of the most talented hot rodders around.. they do American better than some famous Americans. They may drive on the wrong side of the road but they can sure put a hot rod together.

lazs

Staga · « **Reply #38 on:** November 08, 2005, 06:20:25 PM »

Did you know frenchies were first using "hemi's" and that was 40 years before Chrysler?

lazs2 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 08, 2005, 09:54:11 PM »

not sure but I believe the first American overhead valve motor was a "hemi" .. Hemi is in no way a new concept. It was old in the late 40's when chrysler put it in their cars in V8 form... problem was... it is and was a very heavy engine design...

lazs