Liars Liars !

[Gunslinger]

Google: clinton, Iraq, 1998 = 3.74 million hits

Let's not forget about this little gem that the dems NEVER mention

The Iraq Liberation Act

[SirLoin]

Originally posted by Krusher
It is time the Dems stop playing politics and come clean with their agenda to lie until it becomes the truth.

Pentagon finally admits using phosphorous bombs on Fallujah killing scores of women and children...burning thier skin down to the bone.

This only because an Italian documentary is to be aired next week exposing the carnage.

Two years of them lying about it saying it was only phosphorous flares.

It is time the Republicans to come clean with their agenda to lie until it becomes the truth.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by storch
perhaps you should include an ostrich sticking his head into the sand in your avatar ostrichwithhisheadinthesandma n.

Perhaps you should stay on topic.

Now that Iraq has become as messy as a **** sandwich, the GOP is fishing for ways to spread the blame about. It's all crap. The buck stops at the oval. If the idiot from Crawford can't handle the heat, maybe he needs to leave the kitchen.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Pentagon finally admits using phosphorous bombs on Fallujah killing scores of women and children...burning thier skin down to the bone.

This only because an Italian documentary is to be aired next week exposing the carnage.

Two years of them lying about it saying it was only phosphorous flares.

It is time the Republicans to come clean with their agenda to lie until it becomes the truth.

This just in, WP is not an illegal weapon of war...and this just in...Civilians are always killed in every war.

Back to your regularly scheduled ranting...

Oh, and another thing, WP was used to flush insurgents out of buildings so that we could shell with with HE artillery, I suppose the next headline will be "HE was used to kill CIVILIANS!" ?

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Pentagon finally admits using phosphorous bombs on Fallujah killing scores of women and children...burning thier skin down to the bone.

This only because an Italian documentary is to be aired next week exposing the carnage.

Two years of them lying about it saying it was only phosphorous flares.

It is time the Republicans to come clean with their agenda to lie until it becomes the truth.

This has nothing to do with the topic but I'll bite.  The far leftists are calling WP a chemical weapon....yea that has a nice death tone to it "US admits using chemical weapons on Fallujah"  To call WP a "chemical weapon" would mean to call every other piece of ammo round HE C4 semtec a "chemical weapon"

WP has been around for a LONG time.  In deffense here the civilians were given more than ample oppertunity to get out of the city.  If they were still there then they were bound to get hurt.  Show me proof that they DELIBERATLY targeted civilians or these claims hold no weight at all

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Sakai

>Look, even Powell and his men, who took the heat for the Pres, notes it was selective BS.


What is selective BS is a career diplomat in Powell's office made an unsubstantiated claim that Powell has denied.


>If Bush was found sleeping with teenage boys Krusher, you'd blame it on Liberals.

More of your BS if you have no proof insult.


>Time to stop crying about the lost cause of W's greatness and be a tad more honest.


Honesty is what this all about, the dems are being dishonest and ignoring 12 years while trying to rewrite history.  If you want to jump on the band wagon feel free its your right.


>For god's sake, complete control over government, manipulating the agenda for years now and the GOP is still never responsible for anything?

>If that wasn't so pathetic, it would be laughable.


What is pathetic is the transparent attempt to ignore the facts that almost everyone agreed on.


in 1998, Clinton's Justice Department indicted bin Laden. Count 4 of the
indictment has a paragraph that reads.


Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan
and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballahfor the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.



* French Foreign Minister Dominique De Villepin: "Right Now, Our Attention
Has To Be Focused As A Priority On The Biological And Chemical Domains. It
Is There That Our Presumptions About Iraq Are The Most Significant.
Regarding The Chemical Domain, We Have Evidence Of Its Capacity To Produce VX And Yperite. In The Biological Domain, The Evidence Suggests The Possible  Possession Of Significant Stocks Of Anthrax And Botulism Toxin, And Possibly  A Production Capability." (United Nations Security Council, 4701st Meeting,  New York, 2/5/03)



* German Ambassador To The United States Wolfgang Ischinger: "I Think All Of Our Governments Believe That Iraq Has Produced Weapons Of Mass Destruction  And That We Have To Assume That They Still Have That They Continue To Have  Weapons Of Mass Destruction. We Have Not Yet Seen Evidence Produced By The  Inspectors." (NBC's "Today," 2/26/03)

[Gunslinger]

It's obvious that the Clintonesqe mentality of "if you say it enough it becomes true" has taken it's course.  Leftist revisionist want to rewrite history but just can't get past the facts.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Sandman
Perhaps you should stay on topic.

Now that Iraq has become as messy as a **** sandwich, the GOP is fishing for ways to spread the blame about. It's all crap. The buck stops at the oval. If the idiot from Crawford can't handle the heat, maybe he needs to leave the kitchen.

Iraq is not a mess. It is exactly what the President said it would be before it began.....a long, difficult struggle.

We are not goining to lose and the region and the world will thank us after. After it's all said and done, it will be seen as a great moment in American and world history, while the fools like Kerry and the other liberal, lying peices of garbage will be noted as such.

The Dems think they smell blood in the water because of the Presidents poll numbers and Iraq. The fact is that Dems , whom many supported and voted to go to war, are now claiming the President lied and manipulated the intelligence. They are doing this because they are true liberals.......following the polls and taking the positions they think are moste popular. They make me sick.

Bush hasn't been trying to blame anyone that I ever saw. He asking that these fools stop lying and stop sending out mixed signals in a time of war.

Some of these liberal dems are absolute fools who would sell this country down the river if they thought they could benifit politically.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Pentagon finally admits using phosphorous bombs on Fallujah killing scores of women and children...burning thier skin down to the bone.

This only because an Italian documentary is to be aired next week exposing the carnage.

Two years of them lying about it saying it was only phosphorous flares.

It is time the Republicans to come clean with their agenda to lie until it becomes the truth.

Maybe you should watch the documentry and or read the BBC before you gloat.  

Killing scores?
Carnage?

San Diego journalist Darrin Mortenson, who was embedded with US marines during the assault on Falluja, told the BBC's Today radio programme he had seen white phosphorous used "as an incendiary weapon" against insurgents.

However, he "never saw anybody intentionally use any weapon against civilians", he said.

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The credibility of the Italian TV station that is producing the doc your hanging your hat on is pretty thin.

does this ring a bell?

My dear friends in Palestine. We congratulate you and think that it is our duty to put you in the picture (of the events) of what happened on October 12 in Ramallah. One of the private Italian television stations which competes with us (and not the official Italian television station RAI) filmed the events; that station filmed the events. Afterwards Israeli Television broadcast the pictures, as taken from one of the Italian stations, and thus the public impression was created as if we (RAI) took these pictures.

We emphasize to all of you that the events did not happen this way, because we always respect (will continue to respect) the journalistic procedures with the Palestinian Authority for (journalistic) work in Palestine and we are credible in our precise work.

We thank you for your trust, and you can be sure that this is not our way of acting. We do not (will not) do such a thing.

Please accept our dear blessings.

Signed,
Ricardo Christiano
Representative of RAI in the Palestinian Authority
(the official Italian station)

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He had his press credentials suspeneded for his rah rah support of a televised lynching.

Kinda biased towards terrorist ehhh? then I suppose none of that matters.  Did you see that masacre in Jennin?

[Debonair]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
It's obvious that the Clintonesqe mentality of "if you say it enough it becomes true" has taken it's course.  Leftist revisionist want to rewrite history but just can't get past the facts.

I thought that was a hitler tricks....of course all revisionists was to rewrite history, I occasionally wear my Washington Redskins 1984 Superbowl victory hat

[Sandman]

Originally posted by NUKE
Iraq is not a mess. It is exactly what the President said it would be before it began.....a long, difficult struggle.

We are not goining to lose and the region and the world will thank us after. After it's all said and done, it will be seen as a great moment in American and world history,

I bet not. Tell ya what... in twenty years, if I'm right, you can buy me a beer. I'll do the same.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Sandman
I bet not. Tell ya what... in twenty years, if I'm right, you can buy me a beer. I'll do the same.

Sounds good.

[Sandman]

Well... if you're right, you'll get your beer sooner.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Sandman
Well... if you're right, you'll get your beer sooner.

Well, technically you would have to wait 20 years, even if you were proven correct tomorrow. On the other hand, it could be more than 20 years before I could be said to have been correct.

Chit, I'd buy you a beer anyway.

[Rude]

Originally posted by Sandman
Yawn.

The "Clinton Defense" is getting old. The GOP needs a new tune.

I have never blamed you for doubting Bush and his motives...legitimate effort as a American.

How on Gods green earth can you dismiss, not only Clinton, but the so many others, especially Albright.

Kinda dishonest.

I inderstand you served.....there are those here amoungst us who served in unconventional ways which if allowed, would open your eyes.

We should all be tired of Washington in it's entirety....they no longer serve us but rather themselves and guess what?

It's our fault for allowing it to continue as we have....ya reap what ya sow.

A simple truth to consider....we will have nuclear detonation on our soil if our boot is removed from the necks of those currently engaged against us, both overtly and covertly.

Be very careful what you wish for.