Lucas to make WWII Air Movie

[RightF00T]

LOL didnt see any complaints about Flags of Our Fathers...how many times has that been done?  You guys are too funny sometimes.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by bj229r
We heard that umteen times in the FIRST movie, which, horrible as it might be, has been shown a hundred frikkin times. Now they have to go back and trash the 'greatest generation' as a bunch of racists--which is most certainly what the new film will focus on. (A film about minorities overcoming obscatles is a GREAT way to get nominated for an academy award)

Well, every now and then it is worth remembering that "the good ol' days" weren't all that good for everybody...

[cav58d]

Originally posted by Regular
cav is borat

WTF?? LMAO!!!!!!!!! haha


I LIIIIIIIIIKE!

And in Kazakhistan we say......If a man is hungry, it is like, a horse, is hungry.....
...And if a man is tired, it is like, a horse is tired....And if a man is running, it is like, a horse is running, and if a man is happy, it is like, a horse is happy, and if a man is cold, it is like, a horse is cold, and if a man go # 2, it is like a horse go # 2, and if a man is thirsty, it is like, a horse is thirsty, and if a man in cooking food, it is like, a horse is cooking food, and if a man is smelly, it is like, a horse is smelly, and if a man is working, it is like, a horse is working, and if a man is horny, it is like, a horse is horny..........and so and and so on and so on....

funniest borat clip!

[Seagoon]

Personally, I think the great overlooked WW2 battle that needs to be made into a movie is Wake Island.

Essentially a small unit with compelling characters win an incredible victory against overwhelming odds, civilians even help out in the defense, and then finally go down to a tragic and moving defeat and are horribly mistreated by their cruel enemies. You even have air combat with some unbelievable victories (a Wildcat SINKS a destroyer with its 100lb firecrackers even!) "Braveheart" for the 20th century. With the right director it could be a box office smash.

- SEAGOON

[Eagler]

made in 1942. All the old movies should be redone with today's cinema technology

[Debonair]

william bendix as the tough but dependable brooklyn malcontent
there must have been someone like that in every theatre of war, cause he was that character in just about every war movie made in the 1940s

[J_A_B]

"All the old movies should be redone with today's cinema technology"


Then you end up with worthless wastes of celluloid like 'Pearl Harbor'.  No thank you.

Despite this thread being almost a year old, I maintain that any movie with Lucas in charge is going to be junk.  I don't think he has a firm grip on reality anymore.  But then, when you're as rich as he is, who needs reality?

The recent Iwo Jima movie is probably mediocre as well, unless you haven't seen REAL movies and don't know any better.  I can't imagine it possibly being better than 'The Sands of Iwo Jima'.  There's just no way that's even remotely possible.  Hollywood doesn't make good movies anymore, and the mediocre ones seem good only because everything else is horrible.

J_A_B

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Based on the point when they were activly allowed to fully participate in the war.

After 4-5 years of fighting Most of the very best or at least the most experianced german pilots had already been lost.

So...how many allied bombers were lost from the time the Tuskgee Airmen were reassigned from ground support to bomber escort? It would seem then, that no allied planes should have been lost by the time they were allowed to fly bomber escort.

Note: The Tuskegee Airmen were eventually requested to fly escort, not assigned.

[storch]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
So...how many allied bombers were lost from the time the Tuskgee Airmen were reassigned from ground support to bomber escort? It would seem then, that no allied planes should have been lost by the time they were allowed to fly bomber escort.

Note: The Tuskegee Airmen were eventually requested to fly escort, not assigned.

they were clamorred for, it went beyond merely requesting.

[Seagoon]

I agree that Wake Island, One of Our Aircraft is Missing, and most of the wartime movies have an atmosphere and charm all their own, but really only old movie buffs and WW2 geeks like us watch them. We have an entire generation growing up that probably couldn't find Wake Island given a map of the world and two weeks to work with it. How many modern Americans know the story of the Marines who fought and died there? I'd say fewer and fewer every day. Unfortunately, unless it comes out in a movie or a video game or a TV series, very few people know anything about it. I was a little appalled, for instance, at how few Americans recognized "Omaha Beach" prior to SPR being released.

Once in a while Americans need to be reminded that their ability to complain to their hearts discontent about the government was won for them, often by men who didn't survive to get their own chance to complain, and the only way that can be done in most cases is by making movies about those sacrifices. You never know, it might actually help to instill character qualities other than slackerism.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
So...how many allied bombers were lost from the time the Tuskgee Airmen were reassigned from ground support to bomber escort? It would seem then, that no allied planes should have been lost by the time they were allowed to fly bomber escort.

Note: The Tuskegee Airmen were eventually requested to fly escort, not assigned.

Again.

they were bettter pilots by virtue of the additional training they were able to have.

I never once claimed they werent good pilots.
Reread my post

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Seagoon
I agree that Wake Island, One of Our Aircraft is Missing, and most of the wartime movies have an atmosphere and charm all their own, but really only old movie buffs and WW2 geeks like us watch them. We have an entire generation growing up that probably couldn't find Wake Island given a map of the world and two weeks to work with it. How many modern Americans know the story of the Marines who fought and died there? I'd say fewer and fewer every day. Unfortunately, unless it comes out in a movie or a video game or a TV series, very few people know anything about it. I was a little appalled, for instance, at how few Americans recognized "Omaha Beach" prior to SPR being released.

Once in a while Americans need to be reminded that their ability to complain to their hearts discontent about the government was won for them, often by men who didn't survive to get their own chance to complain, and the only way that can be done in most cases is by making movies about those sacrifices. You never know, it might actually help to instill character qualities other than slackerism.

Good post

[lazs2]

so how many fighters did the red tails shoot down?

lazs

[cpxxx]

Quote from acepilots website

The combat record of the Tuskegee Airmen speaks for itself:

over 15,000 combat sorties (including 6000+ for the 99th prior to July '44)
111 German airplanes destroyed in the air, another 150 on the ground
950 railcars, trucks, and other motor vehicles destroyed
1 destroyer sunk by P-47 machine gun fire (Lt. Pierson's flight)
sixty-six pilots killed in action or accidents
thirty-two pilots downed and captured, POWs
NO bombers lost while being escorted by the 332nd, a unique achievement
150 Distinguished Flying Crosses earned
744 Air Medals
8 Purple Hearts
14 Bronze Stars  

Coincidentally I just happened to have watched the earlier film about the Tuskegee airmen on the National Geographic channel. Not great but interesting in it's own way.
While I wouldn't object to any movie featuring WW2 fighters. I am a little disappointed at the subject matter. I would have preferred a movie featuring the Eight Air Force or even the Ninth. But you know what? This isn't going to be a movie about the USAAF.

It's going to be about a group of men who overcame great adversity and triumphed in a unique way. Thus it's great movie fodder.  The kind of film the great unwashed public will go to watch, not the kind of film we sad anoraks would like to see.

We should be grateful that they are even considering a movie which features our favourite warbirds. Although I am sorry to say I am sure it will be heavy with CGI. I don't care what anyone says CGI just isn't the same and they still haven't got a handle on making it realistic.

One other thing, downplaying the achievements of those guys is a little bit racist. Their efforts speak for themselves and like the black riflemen in the infantry they felt they had something to prove and so fought harder than many an equivalent white unit.

[DREDIOCK]

ITs not racist.


Its a fact. by the time the Tuskegee guy made it to combat.
the quality of the german pilots wasnt near what it once was.
Most of the more experienced and best pilots were already lost
And the training time for the german pilots was way down

Where as the tuskegee guys the training was above the norm.

That in turn made them better pilots then those they were going up against

In reality. the reason why they were so successful isnt because they were black. which Im some there is at least someone who would try to make that claim.

But by the combination of the additional training they were able to receive.
As well as the superioour aircraft
And the drop in quality opponents.
If you want to point a finger at why they did better then their white conterparts agains the same calibre foes.
Point a finger at the training. Not the color

As I said before. they inadvertently benifited from the very same prejeduces they had faced

How this is considered recist is beyond me

Unless someone wants to claim that th ereason they were so successful was because they were black.
That to me is far more a racist statement