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Offline nirvana

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« on: November 27, 2005, 09:26:19 PM »
It just might be these days.  I'll bet there's a test to get into McDonalds, Taco Bell, Burger King etc etc.  Is a test really a sign of how well a student can "learn" the information or how well a student can memorize something and then forget it.  Is it really necesary to test kids every single year to test their proficiency in areas of education?  Statewide tests, a waste of government money or another way to keep kids busy.  Spent millions perhaps even billions on testing booklets in which you don't even write in, then another million on the pages that are actually written on for what? A "proficiency" test?  It's almost like voting for a law that gives state colleges $40,000+ and then the state makes them split $30,000 because the oh so great legislature decided to **** the education system and build $80,000+ worth of roads.  Am I going completely insane or is the school system in a state of disrepair?  Does it matter if you write to government officials about it?  Not really, I mean what do they care.  Is it really a useful tool to check to see what kind of progress a student makes every week by giving them a test?  Is it really worth a few million dollars to see what you are going to be based on a piece of paper in which you fill in bubbles?

You may laugh all you want, hell i'm only a naive 16 year old, but in my opinion, testing is out of hand.
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2005, 09:33:23 PM »
Well, don't the christians believe that every action you do is part of a 'test' to get into heaven?  

Tests themselves are just a part of life.  In this case, they're unavoidable, as there is a strong demand for the public schools to prove that the kids are learning.  Accountability is the name of the game, and if that means test the kids to the point of failure, so be it.  Anything that'll help the school voucher proponents get ahead!
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2005, 09:43:01 PM »
Oh I forgot this, studying for tests, you know, and the "hour minimum" of homework that is supposed to be assigned per class.  Let the kids go out and play HELL NO, they are our future, if they play, how will we ever have mindless zombies to run our countries?  We need more clones, the more support, the better.  Free thinking?  HELL NO!  Free thinking promotes questions which promotes anarchy, we can not have free thinkers!  Artists? NEVER, the artistic ones are the ones that make this country a left wing liberal state.  Only conservatives can afford to live here.


Who's accountable for (i can't believe i'm going here) the deaths in Iraq?  Who is accountable for the unemployment rates?  Who is accountable for inflation, gas prices(although they are going down)?  I want accountability RIGHT NOW.



P.S. I don't support religion.
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2005, 09:51:45 PM »
What chairboy is sarcastically referring to is components of the BIPARTISAN No Child Left Behind.  No longer will schools get a ton of money from the govt without producing results.  Schools in the past have failed and lawmakers from all around just want to throw more and more money at the problem till it goes away.

Here's what you probably don't see.  In a few years you will no longer be a teenager.  In 2 years you are now properly responsible for all your actions to include education.  There will be a time in your life that education will make a difference in wich direction your life takes.  

Do I think you need to take a psych eval to get a job at blockbuster.....no that's pushing it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2005, 10:00:44 PM »
Life is a test.  Failure is death.  So far I have a passing grade. So far, so good.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2005, 10:11:15 PM »
Well, when you get to college, you recognize a few things very quickly.

A pair of these is the difference between memorizing a subject, and knowing a subject.


Many many times I tried to get through just by memorizing something...
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2005, 10:30:31 PM »
What laser said.  I was a retard and screwed up my first shot at post secondary education.  I'm at it again, and the difference between the people that memorise the formulas and those that study and understand the concepts is like night and day.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2005, 10:49:55 PM »
The cure for ignorance is education. The cure for stupidity is death.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2005, 11:38:23 PM »
Both Hangtime and Holden said something I was thinking about at first. Later on I realized that to be truly educated is to learn how much you don't know and enjoy the pursuit of learning more.

I learned more and easier when I went back to school more than 2 decades after college. I found it to be very stimulating, fun and interesting to examine new things. I loved chemistry much to my surprise. Even art history was enjoyable.

The third time I went to college and got the least degree of my 3 degrees was still enjoyable as I got new skills (A&P) as well as new ideas to wrap my head around.
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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2005, 12:35:19 AM »
When I die, on my deathbed, I will achieve total consciousness.  So I got that going for me, which is nice.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2005, 12:57:25 AM »
I'll tell ya just like I'd tell my own kid.

Like it or not your taking the tests anyway
Now Shut up and get studying.

And if you keep crying about it I'm gonna give you something to cry about ;)

Probably pretty much the same reaction you get from your parents too huh?

The good news is in 15-20 years you will know better and get to say the same thing to yours.

"When I was 16 I thought my father was the most stupid man on the face of the earth.
When I was 26 I was amazed at how much he learned in the last 10 years" (or something along those lines)-Mark Twain
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2005, 01:15:52 AM »
90% of public schools instruct and test by measuring students ability to regurgitate lesson plans.  A good deal of information is thrown at the students and they are expected to throw it back.  Capacity to memorize does not in any way represent intelligence.  Intelligence is relative and no single 'test' can measure an abstract concept.  

Much of my edjumakashun went through the regurgitation process.  I took the AP courses, loaded myself down, and I got ****ed in the end.  Half the credits didnt transfer and the gpa suffered.  Dont get me started on lack of weighted grading; a few of us had special ed kids with higher GPAs.  Kinda funny cos collegiate gpa's mean dick once you graduate, yet mean everything when it comes to grants and scholarships in high school.  

A lot of the crap ya learn in high school is just that, bloated crap.  Too broad and extremely watered down to make use for higher education.

So my advice is to wade through the sea of garbage and play the game for now.  Differentiate the fluff from the jewels, and most imprortantly, learn how to learn, not regurgitate.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2005, 01:40:07 AM »
Tests are fine, exams suck.
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