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Offline Wilbus

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« on: November 30, 2005, 08:13:52 AM »
My planes aswell!

Sorry for getting pissed off DrkBlue but it quickly gets anoying to fill an enemy plane from point blank and not even see any kind of part fall off then lose my tail from 300 yards in 1 or 2 pings :)


Check this film, only 30 seconds long. Run it in slow motion and look at DrkBlue's spit in F3 mode from above when he pass infront of me, quite a few hits. Even just the MG's should've done something there.

DrkBlue was nice flying.

Film Here
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Offline Mime

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2005, 08:25:29 AM »
Hispanos are the ez mode weapon to go along with the Spitfires.  It's there so newbies can get some kills without really having to learn anything.

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2005, 08:58:06 AM »
Looking at it in external view, there are a couple of small, round jagged pieces that fall off.  I agree though, the way you lit up the fuselage, I'd of expected more damage, especially if the cannons were hitting.
You weren't firing only the machine guns were you?

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2005, 09:12:44 AM »
Neg SKJohn, was firing everything I had :)

The small round pieces are basicly just "eyecandy" and doesn't affect performance anything :(

I have a dual stage trigger on the HOTAS Cougar.

I have it setup in a different way compared to most people. I fire secondary weapon (cannons usually) in the first stage and MG's the second stage. So every time I fire I fire cannons. The reason I set it up like that was because in snapshots before, like the one you saw here, the cannons would sometimes miss because I didn't reach the second stage of the trigger fast enough.

I have an option to fire MG's only if I hold another button on the stick.

Don't think it is a question of ez-mode weapons really, specially not on purpose.

I think though, the way AH handles Dammage, where something MUST fall off to make a difference in handeling is "pro" some weapons. Specially Hispanos which have such a high velocity combined with alot of HE.

50 cal has suffered some since AH2 (they used to be absolutely uber in AH).

My hopes for AH in the future is still an improved DM where each round cerates some kind of dammage to the actual airfoil without having to take pieces off of planes. This would make both the Japanese and LW planes better and more competative.

The Ho5 guns have a quite high velocity, not to mention ROF (highest of the 20mm) but they lack punch because of quite little HE compared to other guns.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 10:09:31 AM »
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I have it setup in a different way compared to most people. I fire secondary weapon (cannons usually) in the first stage and MG's the second stage. So every time I fire I fire cannons. The reason I set it up like that was because in snapshots before, like the one you saw here, the cannons would sometimes miss because I didn't reach the second stage of the trigger fast enough.

I have an option to fire MG's only if I hold another button on the stick.

That is exactly how I have mine setup as of two weeks ago when I had to rewrite my file (stupid last computer losing my files) and I figured I might as well improve it while I did.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 10:40:20 AM »
How do you like it so far Karnak? Must be quite a bit better when flying a mossie with all those Hispanos in the nose.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 11:18:37 AM »
Well, I had it in the standard "first click for MGs, second click adds cannons and S3 + full trigger for just cannon" for so long that I often find myself holding the S3 button and full trigger, intending to let the target have it with 20mm only to pepper it with .303s. ;)   I'll learn though.

The reason I changed it was because I fly cannon armed aircraft almost exclusively, Spits, Mossies, Ki-84s, Bf109s and Fw190s, all of which have MGs as their "primary" bank so I though that if I used the first stage of the trigger it would be a lighter touch than having to click two buttons at once.  I am guesing that will cause me to screw up my shot less often once I adjust to it.

I have only flown the Mossie once or twice since I started playing again and neither of those had any air-to-air, although I really tried to get into range on the second one.

I have been flying Spits mainly, with the Bf109G-14 and Ki-84 now and then.

I've never really been able to have a good time air-to-air in the Mossie since AH2 was released and the average speed in the MA went up so much.  The new Spits and 109 make it even harder as they are faster than the Mossie and out manuver it in all ways.  More La-7 like fighters for it to deal with.  Hopefully whenever the Mossie gets redone the flame dampers will get taken off and allow it to get some of that speed it had a reputation for.  At least it isn;t like the Mossie in WBIII and unable to brak 310mph on the deck.:p
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 12:26:27 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak the Mossie in WBIII and unable to brak 310mph on the deck.:p [/B]



Are you serious?  :confused:
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2005, 12:47:08 PM »
They may have changed it, but the last time I tried it that was it's limit.

Flame damped Merlin 21s on the Mk VI.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 01:04:32 PM »
Lordy. The climb rate always was screwed up, hadn't realised the speed was now porked too.

*sigh* So much wasted potential...
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2005, 01:17:34 PM »
HEY!!! Get out of my thread!

This is a Hizooka/Dammage modell whine thread NOT a Mossie whine thread!

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 01:20:49 PM »
whoops! sorry.

:o

... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2005, 03:04:42 AM »
Scherf.

68Hall, if you have found your way to this thread ;)

I partially agree with you, most of the hits were in the rear fuselage and also several in the left and right wing roots.

However, look at this screenshot.




Atleast one hit very close to the cockpit, just behind/right of the pilots head...

Of course, nothing much to argue about but anyway. Like you said before, a very hard hit and I am surprised (and still somewhat anoyed) that I caused no dammage what so ever. Had I been in a spit the plane would've most likely blown up.

Here is another screenshot showing the hit smokepuffs, I am trying to find out if there is a difference between MG puffs and 20mm puffs, so far I THINK (could be that I want it to be, illusion again) the 20mm puffs are bigger.



I need to start using 20mm only in the Ki84 to see if I miss with them enterily or if they really are that bad.

My experience with them so far is that they are fast firing (900 rpm per gun) but lacks any sort of punch.
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2005, 04:23:31 AM »
OK. Found out that those hits are infact 20mm hits.

Made a new thread about it, want a discussion going about different weapons/ammo.

See this thread.
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