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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2005, 01:41:17 PM »
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You ever hear of lying?  

Didn't Bush say we were working towards a free and independent Iraq?  Think this makes his point?

Think this kind of stupiditry aids us over there?

Think it doesn't rationalize every guy who wants us dead by saying "they are liars these Americans"?

I guess torture is psy ops too?

Wow, what a great "psy ops" team we have.  Go team!

This kind of stupidity makes the enemy's argument.

What a great psy ops tool:  make the enemy's argument for him.  

Sakai


Wow you went from Bush Lied.....to torture....to no freedom.  Exactly what freedom is being taken away.....what lies and specifically how is this psy op tied to torture?  What enemy argument, the one that says we should all bow to allah and worship the prophet mohammed?

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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2005, 02:10:56 PM »
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Wow you went from Bush Lied.....to torture....to no freedom.  Exactly what freedom is being taken away.....what lies and specifically how is this psy op tied to torture?  What enemy argument, the one that says we should all bow to allah and worship the prophet mohammed?


Dude, you are way too ignorant to comprehend the issues at play here so you simply grunt "ugh, me right" and swing your stupid club.

That will get us sooooooo much in this war, no really.

Hey no, really!

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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2005, 02:25:00 PM »
so sakai, you are saying that printing good things about americans is a bad thing?      really?

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2005, 02:34:19 PM »
What ... like the Bush administration has never paid anyone to publish articles that back thier ideas???

Short memories, or did you just never hear about it?

And your surprised they are doing it in warfare?

They do it in the U.S. in an election year.

So is this really much of a surprise?  Why would this outrage you, while here, at home, it is ok?


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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2005, 02:42:53 PM »
To get Gunslinger into a thread:

1.  Mention Iraq
2.  Mention anything to do with the US military
3.  Bad mouth Bush
4.  Post something patriotic
5.  Post something unpatriotic

It's like lambs to the slaughter.

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2005, 03:09:27 PM »
Hi Gun,

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Wow you went from Bush Lied.....to torture....to no freedom.  Exactly what freedom is being taken away.....what lies and specifically how is this psy op tied to torture?  What enemy argument, the one that says we should all bow to allah and worship the prophet mohammed?


It's pedantic of me I know, but they are actually saying that all should (and will) worship Allah and follow the teachings of the prophet Mohommed. They would be appalled at the idea of worshipping him as he is a man, regardless of how blessed and inspired they believe he was. He is the teacher and example of the Jihadis, but not their God.

Hence the motto of AQ, Hamas, and all the various international arms of the Muslim brotherhood: "Allah is its goal, the Prophet its model, the Qur’an its Constitution, Jihad its path and death for the cause of Allah its most sublime belief."
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2005, 05:26:17 PM »
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Hi Gun,

 

It's pedantic of me I know, but they are actually saying that all should (and will) worship Allah and follow the teachings of the prophet Mohommed. They would be appalled at the idea of worshipping him as he is a man, regardless of how blessed and inspired they believe he was. He is the teacher and example of the Jihadis, but not their God.

Hence the motto of AQ, Hamas, and all the various international arms of the Muslim brotherhood: "Allah is its goal, the Prophet its model, the Qur’an its Constitution, Jihad its path and death for the cause of Allah its most sublime belief."


I stand corrected.

As for the rest of you,

Sakai,

You can bash me all you want but that doesn't change the fact that you cannot back up what you say.  You take a very simplistic approach to this.  

DO I think this subject is a bad thing and a front to freedom.....NO

I think publishing it as it's probably a national secret or classified IS wrong on so many levels.  You don't fight your enemy on his level you fight him ABOVE his level.  People way smarter than both you and I came up with this idea probably to counter alot of the Islamic hate speech that comes out over mega phones 5 times a day from mosques saying that Americans want to turn Iraq into the next israel.

If they aren't printing direct lies and publishing it under the guise of truth (wich the article clearly says they arent) than this is a legitmate psy op.  They clearly arent doing this to doop the American people so I don't see it as a conflict of federal law.

Do you really think "W" and Rummy sit in their meetings and deliberatly plan stuff like this?  To me you don't sound like you know the first thing about modern military warfare nore what's going on at the GI level in Iraq.

You can throw all these curve balls out here but when it comes to truth you cannot back up what you say....PERIOD.

you cannot even tell me what enemy's argument this proves.

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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2005, 06:00:43 PM »
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You ever hear of lying?  



Sakai


while your on the subject of the ignorant.

If something is factual.

Its not lieing.

Certainly no different then what I see you doing on these boards or what the media does on tv.
Take something and spin it a way that suits you in an attempt to convey the desired message.
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2005, 07:21:17 PM »
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Originally posted by Sakai
Dude, you are way too ignorant to comprehend the issues at play here so you simply grunt "ugh, me right" and swing your stupid club.

That will get us sooooooo much in this war, no really.

Hey no, really!

Sakai


So, if you lack the ability, information or facts to contradict him, or at least offer a decent arguement, you just insult him and that makes you winner?

Hardly, it actually makes you the loser.

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