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« on: December 01, 2005, 04:53:08 PM »

4./ZG76 of Sonderkommando Junck in "Iraqi Air Force" markings hastily painted over German markings.  Already in the game.


An F8 of II./SG2 with an interesting story behind it.  74/75/natural metal scheme, which is hard to make look right with the way the material.txt file works.  Sent this in the other day.


Technical Officer of III./JG3.  I liked the unusual upper surface scheme.  Sent this in today.

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2005, 05:23:31 PM »
I've flown your 110 in-game. I also submitted the overall tan version of the same squad (nose/teeth), but still haven't heard anything about it being received.

That F8 is a funky looking bird lol!

EDIT: You didn't say which model of 109 the skin was for.

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2005, 11:16:12 PM »
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I've flown your 110 in-game. I also submitted the overall tan version of the same squad (nose/teeth), but still haven't heard anything about it being received.


Hope the thing flew better for you with that skin than with the original.  I've noticed that seems to be the case with most user skins :).  Be nice to see a tan version.  I was working on an Italian version, green/tan on top and black on the bottom, but was haven't yet found some good colors.  As in, that don't induce vomiting by their horrific combination.  I'm using the specified colors, but I think the spec is wrong :).

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That F8 is a funky looking bird lol!


It really depends on the angle.  In the pic, the metal sides look almost RLM 76--they only glint when the light hits them just right.  Same with the whole belly.  It's a shame the material.txt file doesn't handle 1/2 paint, 1/2 metal planes better.  On this one, to keep the painted parts from shining too much, I had to make the metal duller than it ought to be.

The story on this plane is that the pilot had his fiance' stuffed in the baggage compartment when Rudel led the unit into the belly landing towards the west to escape the Russians.  The disciplined German pilot did in fact belly in, gently enough to keep the girl intact.  I think I'd have blown off that order.  I mean, how could the boss do anything, since you were all going to be POWs upon landing :).

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You didn't say which model of 109 the skin was for.


It's an F.  I thought folks would see the lower forward glass, so could tell it wasn't a G2 :).

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2005, 12:00:35 AM »
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The story on this plane is that the pilot had his fiance' stuffed in the baggage compartment when Rudel led the unit into the belly landing towards the west to escape the Russians. The disciplined German pilot did in fact belly in, gently enough to keep the girl intact. I think I'd have blown off that order. I mean, how could the boss do anything, since you were all going to be POWs upon landing


hmm, SG2 ditched  their machines and surrendered 8 May '45 at  Kitzingen (home of the  405th FG). There's a lot pictures of thsoe planes, I don't recall a 'Black 3' F-8...

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The Surrender of S.G. 2, 8 May 1945


The aircraft that ditched with the women in the baggage compartment was FW 190 F-8 W.Nr 585 584 'White 9 + -'.

Here's a link to a pic:

FW 190 F-8 W.Nr 585 584 'White 9 + -' at Kitzingen, 8 May 1945

Here's a list of the 'Kitzingen' aircraft:

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Ju 87 G-2 W.Nr 494 110 'Black <- + -' Stab S.G. 2
The camouflage scheme of Rudel's aircraft, according to B.C. Rosch (ed.) Luftwaffe Verband #21, January 2000, p.1, was a "patched and well-worn" RLM 70 black-green / RLM 71 dark green splinter scheme. The Geschwaderkommodore markings were black with a thin white outline. The Balkenkreuz and Hakenkreuz were the late-war white outline type, and the six-digit W.Nr was in black above the Hakenkreuz. The spinner was RLM 70 black-green with a white spiral, and the rudder had the two white diagonal stripes seen on a number of S.G. 2 aircraft.

Ju 87 G-2 W.Nr 494 013 '< + -' of Stab S.G. 2 suffered a belly-landing at Fl.Pl. Niemes-Süd on 18 April 1945, sustaining 25% damage. Perhaps 494 110 was a replacement machine.

Ju 87 D-5 W.Nr unknown 'T6 + TU' 10.(Pz.)/S.G. 2
This aircraft carried a female passenger, and had the yellow V marking under the right wing (for further details on this marking, go to this page). On the rudder were the two white diagonal stripes.

Ju 87 D-5 W.Nr unknown 'T6 + VU' 10.(Pz.)/S.G. 2
Flown by Oblt. Schwirblatt, this aircraft also carried the two white diagonal stripes on the rudder.

FW 190 A-8 W.Nr 171 189 'Black << + -' Stab II./S.G. 2
The aircraft of Karl Kennel, this FW 190 A-8 was built in July 1944 by the Focke-Wulf factory at Cottbus. The undercarriage fairings were oversprayed with one of the upper surface colours.

FW 190 A-6 W.Nr 550 503 'White 2 + -' 4./S.G. 2
W.Nr 550 503 was an Ago-built aircraft, completed in August 1943

FW 190 F-8 W.Nr 584 584 'White 9 + -' 4./S.G. 2
An FW 190 Jabo built by Arado at Warnemünde, this ircraft had the bulged canopy of later FW 190s. After capture, it was painted with the star and bars, and the 509th FS code of 'G9 - T' was applied. It retained the Hakenkreuz, and was probably flown only once by Lt. Oscar Theis, a Texan.[5]

FW 190 F-8 W.Nr 583 234 'White 12 + -' 4./S.G. 2
This aircraft was an FW 190 F-8, not as previously reported, an FW 190 A-8. It was also built by Arado at Warnemünde. In American hands, this aircraft recieved the 511th FS code of 'K4 -', but was probably not flown.[6]


I guess there could of been other LW aircraft that ditched their as well. There was a FW 190 'Black 5' of II./SG 103 that landed there.

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2005, 01:24:39 AM »
Actually, the person in the radio compartment was a man, the woman (the fiance) was flown in via a stuka. The planes with passengers (including radio compartment man) didn't belly land.

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2005, 08:15:18 AM »
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it :).  I got it off the decal sheet's instructions, so I KNOW it's gotta be 100% right :rofl

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2005, 08:17:12 AM »
It looks good either way...

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2005, 08:35:18 AM »
Real nice F8..
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2005, 08:44:22 AM »
very nice 109 and fw8 well done keep up the good work:aok
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2005, 01:19:41 PM »
I like the 109 and 190f8 best. you wont be able to tell its metal though unless you fake some reflection on it using a bit of blue and such where its natural metal
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2005, 09:43:15 PM »
That 109 is very nice.  I like my planes to be a bit cleaner than the default skins...

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2005, 06:49:53 PM »
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I like the 109 and 190f8 best. you wont be able to tell its metal though unless you fake some reflection on it using a bit of blue and such where its natural metal


The F8 originally had the blue thing going.  Back before the new 51s and 47s came out, I wanted to learn how to do metal so I'd be ready for them.  About that time, TexMurphy posted up some great how-tos on metal, including the blue trick, so I did a completely bare-metal F8.  I'd just finished doing some A8s so basically had the template already, and had stumbled across a real nekkid F8 in a book, so it was the perfect quick project for me.  Came out great and has been in the game for some time now.

So when I did this 1/2 nekkid F8, I just painted over parts of my previous F8, leaving the metal as it was, Tex-style, including the light blue layer and the material.txt file with the B values an RCH higher than the R and G.  I quickly discovered, however that this wasn't going to work.  When I turned down the diffuse and specular values in the material.txt file so that the painted upper parts wouldn't glint like they were bare metal, it also took a lot of the glint out of the metal parts.  This in turn made the blue show up way too much, so the plane looked like it was painted with RLM 65 or 76.  So there was nothing for it but to really turn down the opacity of the blue layer, plus get rid of the B bias in the material.txt file.

The result is that the metal parts now look like light gray paint from most angles.  However, when the light catches them just right, they still glint brightly like the bare metal they're supposed to be.  At the same time, the painted parts really don't glint much at all.  So I think I arrived at the best compromise, given that the material.txt file applies to the whole plane, not just the metal parts.

Here's another view of the F8 showing the metal glinting, while the painted parts ain't.: