Fire the hole lot of them...Air controller style

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Lye-el: I'm a small business owner, and I have no 25 million dollar gutten pension funds.

It's amazing how your perspective can change if you're not in the "oppressed worker" roll and instead have to take responsibility for your own future.

Just sayin.  

I assume you have employees. Are you a good employer whose employees are like working for you? Or are you one that treats their employees like dirt, screws them every chance you get, then complains that they don't do a good job for you? If your employees "take responsibility for their own future" does that mean they would not be working for you?

Just saying

[Chairboy]

My employees like me, based on my retention rate.  Your post seemed to suggest that all capitalists were scum, and the poor workers of the world are in a pitched battle against them.

I respectfully disagree.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Chairboy
My employees like me, based on my retention rate.  Your post seemed to suggest that all capitalists were scum, and the poor workers of the world are in a pitched battle against them.

I respectfully disagree.

Chairboy:  "Peter, What's happinen?"
Pizzaboy:  "not much"
Chairboy:  "yea.....I don't know if you got that memo"
Pizzaboy:  "we get memos here?"
Chairboy:  "yea....see we're using a new cover sheets for the TPS reports"
Pizzaboy:  "WTF is a TPS report and since when did we start using memos?  This is a freakin pizza place"
Chairboy:  "Yea....I'll get you another copy of that memo and if you'd just correct that it'd be super"
Pizzaboy:  "what freakin memo?"
Chairboy:  "oh BTW we need to play catch up this weekend so I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday"
Pizzaboy:  "i'm allready on the schedule for saturday you retard"
Chairboy:  "yea....that's great, I'm gonna need you to come in on sunday as well"
Pizzaboy:  "dude all I do is make pizzas and the store is closed on sundays.  Did you start sniffing glue again?"
Chairboy:  "thanks Peter, that'd be super"

[Chairboy]

Oh, and I'll go ahead and send you a copy of that memo.  Mmmmmm, thanks.

[WhiteHawk]

Firing a bunch of union guys in New York for participating in union related activity would be political suicide.

[Urchin]

No, that would actually be a plus, I think.  

In 20 years, there won't be a "Labor Day" Holiday, because every day, people with jobs will be, well, laboring.  Probably 10 or 12 hours a day, with no overtime. no health insurance, no anything.  If they are lucky they'll live in a company town... if not they probably won't have a job.  Why would people take jobs like this, you ask?  Simple, because those are the only jobs there are.  

The unions are there to protect the workers.  No unions, no protection.  

And the amazing thing is, Americans are so ****ing stupid, they'll not only eat ****, they'll LIKE it and ask for more!

[Habu]

Actually Unions do nothing to protect workers.

The only thing that protects workers is staying ahead of the competition. If you do that you need more workers and the ones you have prosper.

If you don't do that you wither and die.

Nothing a Union can do to stop all its members from losing their job if that happens.

GM and Ford right now and in the middle of the biggest restructuring in history to try and save the US auto industry. The reason it is in trouble is not shoddy product or greedy managment, it is the high cost base of a totally unionized workforce.

All the unions are doing is protecting their oldest workers. They screw young guys whenever they have to cut overtime, hours, jobs etc.

If I was under 30 I would say **** all unions. They are doing nothing for you.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by SOB
Why hello there.  I am a state employee.  My job is a union job.  Should I be fortunate enough to work for the state until I retire, I will be quite financially comfortable.  I could introduce you to any one of a number of folks who have been employed with the state for longer than I have that are financially comfortable, but I don't know any of them that frequent this particular BBS.

you work at the DMV? was that you taking my picture the last time?

[SOB]

Yeah, sorry for snapping the picture while you were picking your nose!

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Habu
Actually Unions do nothing to protect workers.

The only thing that protects workers is staying ahead of the competition. If you do that you need more workers and the ones you have prosper.

If you don't do that you wither and die.

Nothing a Union can do to stop all its members from losing their job if that happens.

GM and Ford right now and in the middle of the biggest restructuring in history to try and save the US auto industry. The reason it is in trouble is not shoddy product or greedy managment, it is the high cost base of a totally unionized workforce.

All the unions are doing is protecting their oldest workers. They screw young guys whenever they have to cut overtime, hours, jobs etc.

If I was under 30 I would say **** all unions. They are doing nothing for you.

Yup what he said.  When the market becomes an "employee's market" like it was in 2000 unions become irrelevent.