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Offline Cobra412

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2006, 07:11:34 PM »
I prefer this one myself.

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2006, 07:22:21 PM »
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I prefer this one myself.



Thats slightly better but to curvy.


The 1967 and 68 Camaro's are a work of art.  I am with Sandman, make it 90% like the original body and pack a good suspesion and motor in it.


The car GM ever made that was better looking then the 67 and 68 camaro's was the 68 and 69 GTO. The 70 and a half firebire and Camaro are close though.



Those are lines that do not need to be "improved"

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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2006, 07:22:37 PM »
GM gets it wrong yet again.


I wonder which will happen first...they fire all of their design teams, or go bankrupt


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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2006, 07:29:51 PM »
beltline's too high. a problem shared by 98% of late model domestic cars.

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2006, 07:53:24 PM »
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Thats slightly better but to curvy.


The 1967 and 68 Camaro's are a work of art.  I am with Sandman, make it 90% like the original body and pack a good suspesion and motor in it.


The car GM ever made that was better looking then the 67 and 68 camaro's was the 68 and 69 GTO. The 70 and a half firebire and Camaro are close though.

Those are lines that do not need to be "improved"

I like the one Cobra posted, but I like this idea more...and throw a new-fangled interior in it ta boot.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2006, 07:54:35 PM »
Yeah, modernise everything BUT the body.

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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2006, 08:20:50 PM »
Yet another retro car.
Looks like they hit a new Mustang or one of their late 60's models with an ugly stick.
Muscle cars are supposed to be a tool that high school senoirs use to get laid, not for baby boomer senior citizens to haul their depends home from costco.  The fiero may have been a dental assistant-mobile, but at least it was a bit fresh.  I'm betting all the creativity & talent at the US auto makers are in the truck & SUV divisions

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2006, 10:34:04 PM »
Even in red that new camero doesnt scream trailer trash, or mullet
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2006, 10:43:44 PM »
by the time they build it it'll be powered by grass clippings and smell like **** when yah floor it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2006, 12:45:37 AM »
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I prefer this one myself.


I perfur that one too .
the concept camaro really needs the '69 rs style taillights
the dash and console are cool but it really needs a "Wood wheel"

The 60's cars always had the Coolest tail lights ... (I love my '66 gto's lights )


btw gm will sell every retro camaro they can build .... its way over due .
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2006, 09:47:50 AM »
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Even in red that new camero doesnt scream trailer trash, or mullet


It would probably help if you park it in front of a house trailer and give it a few months to let the weeds grow through.
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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2006, 10:39:33 AM »
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beltline's too high. a problem shared by 98% of late model domestic cars.


Blame that on Ralph Nader and his door anti-impact beams.

Look, I've read these threads on all sorts of message boards, and here is my take....

This isn't 1969. There are different things fueling this current ponycar war. People have different tastes now. It's a v8 RWD coupe. That's all I care about. Dodge and Ford are making them too now. It's not a carbon copy, nor will it ever be. Blame Dodge for making a 4 door Charger. Ignore the fact it's a better car all around then the original. Oh no, I don't like the new Mustang. Too bad it's the fastest ever. I'm sure this Camaro will also outperform its older brothers. The Challenger is the same.

Take out the sheer dominance in performance of the new cars. Add in heated seats. Satellite radio. ABS. Better gas milage. Shall I continue?

Adjusted for inflation these cars are just as affordable as the old ones. They are just better in every aspect now.

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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2006, 10:52:39 AM »
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GM has not made a final committment to build it, and if they do, you can bet they will maul the concept car look when the bean counters demand the fenders from the Saturn, the bumpers from the Geo, and the doors from the Alero be used.



I bet you are more right than you think on this one:(

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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2006, 11:01:20 AM »
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GM gets it wrong yet again.


I wonder which will happen first...they fire all of their design teams, or go bankrupt


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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2006, 12:29:49 PM »
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Look, I've read these threads on all sorts of message boards, and here is my take....

This isn't 1969. There are different things fueling this current ponycar war. People have different tastes now. It's a v8 RWD coupe. That's all I care about. Dodge and Ford are making them too now. It's not a carbon copy, nor will it ever be. Blame Dodge for making a 4 door Charger. Ignore the fact it's a better car all around then the original. Oh no, I don't like the new Mustang. Too bad it's the fastest ever. I'm sure this Camaro will also outperform its older brothers. The Challenger is the same.

Take out the sheer dominance in performance of the new cars. Add in heated seats. Satellite radio. ABS. Better gas milage. Shall I continue?

Adjusted for inflation these cars are just as affordable as the old ones. They are just better in every aspect now.


Sure its great they built a concept for a RWD V8 car.  It aint on a production line yet.  The ONLY reason its RWD now is  ............... thats what people WANT.  They know damn well they'll never get interest up from the camaro buying public in a FWD car, no matter how well it performs or how good it looks.  

I dont hear anyone complaining about the new Mustang.  IMO they were the only ones that got it right!  It looks very much like the car that inspired it.  Well, include the new Challenger too.  Thats a sweet ride, and looks very much like the original also.  With the success of the Mustang, and the hype over the new Challenger, you would think GM would have gotten the hint.  Apparently you didnt either.  No musclecar fan wants to drive a moon-buggy.  

As far as "a better car all around than the original," thats debateable.  Sure it handles better.  So does a Honda Civic.  Take a 67-69 Camaro, gut it, put a modern engine in it with a modern drive train and braking system and an updated interior, and you pretty much have what Camaro fans would like to see.  Heck, even a 70-73 design would be nice (my preference).  And it would be a "better" car, using your definition.  The reasons why they WONT are simply because the F-body design had several inherent flaws that couldnt be rectified through simple updating.  My buddy autocross races F-body camaros and Firebirds, and I've heard numerous times how expensive it is to make even a modern car handle on the track like an import.  I discussed the issues with some of the GM Quality Control people when we got the last of the old models, and even they didnt know how the issues would be solved, or even IF they would be.  GM did what they had to do and designed an entirely new car.  I can understand that and live with it.  But that doesnt make it a Camaro.  They need alot more cues from the original if they want to pass this car off as one.  IMO they would have been better off with this design if they had named it something entirely different.  Is this a "better car" than the original Camaro?  Yes, of course.  What it's NOT, is a "better Camaro".