Author Topic: CH USB Pro Throttle (Read 1005 times)

DonULFonso · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2006, 06:50:58 PM »

Does AH recognize multiple controllers? If so, then you'll need to select the PT as device and the select its z-axis. AH obviously takes the 1st controller 1st, and that's the FS - and that's got a throttle-wheel = z-axis, so that's selected as default.

If this shouldn't help, you could create a (controller-)map via the CM and simply clear the FS' wheel (axis A3) from any DirectX output (or at least map a different axis to it). Then select the PT's throttle (axis A3) and change the device from "2" to "1" (but keep the z-axis).

Spatula · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2006, 09:35:05 PM »

Heres my 2nd cut at my set up.

JTs · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2006, 02:51:45 PM »

will send cheat code for button 1 on pro throttle

Spatula · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2006, 03:32:33 PM »

Had a 'mare of a time in the MA last night with my views on the throttle. I managed ok with it in the TA the other night as a trial run, but last night i just felt like i was like really drunk or something, and kept getting really out-of-shape at very inoppurtune moments

I think maybe ill try switching the hats over so the views are on the stick as i think that will feel more intuitive - eg to look ahead you push the hat ahead, whereas the hat on the throttle is rotated and just feels unintuitive. But im worried that i wont be able to operate the buttons on top of the stick whilst cycling through the views (as i only have one right hand thumb) like flaps and trims. or maybe i could remap those... ARGGGHH!!!!!

FOGOLD · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2006, 06:09:36 PM »

I would persevere with the views on the throttle. Its far more relaxing with your hand on the heft of the stick without having to stretch all the time for the hat. I soon got used to it, but then, you've seen my rank no doubt:lol

SNO · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2006, 06:31:08 PM »

The views on the throttle is good idea, would it be easier to use if look left was left on the button and look right was to the right on the button and look back was pull back on the button with the other views in between???? I have them this way on mine and it takes no thinking to use , look left push button left and so on. My opinion...... maybe help maybe not

Delirium · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2006, 09:00:10 PM »

Thats the way I have mine set up, you need to ignore the CH set up icons when you do it, their left is actually the hat 'up' etc.

Spatula · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2006, 09:29:14 PM »

oh, ok, so your look forward is actually the up position?

FOGOLD · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2006, 01:25:51 AM »

buttonforward is forward-up, up is left down is right back is back. Map another intuitive button for up so you can press it with the hat for three quarter views all round.

DonULFonso · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2006, 03:26:47 PM »

You've got 3 buttons at the front of the throttle, so why not use 'em?

Assign the normal level snap-views to the throttle's POV-hat (with the orientation you prefer), and use 1 of these buttons as "up"- and another as "down"-modifier - this way you can shift any view up or down any time you need to, and you can look straight up even without using the POV-coolie at all. (This works with any programmable/mappable controller - TM, CH, Saitek, etc.).

If you don't have a TrackIR, you could set up the throttle's microstick to control the mouse-look/panning in addition to this - 1 thumb for 2 choices

, and all the view-control you need at the tip of just one single finger

.

@FOGOLD:

Would you believe

? CH sent me a couple of their controllers

to get a better impression than my pure theoretical guesstimation

... and I fell in love

! (It was harder to (re-)learn what this word "support" means

than to actually get into Bob's scripting

...)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #25 on:** January 20, 2006, 08:57:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
Here is my setup. I have rudder pedals, so I use toe brakes. If I did not, I would probably set up left/right brakes as buttons 2 & 3 on throttle as L/R brakes.

Believe it or not, a lot of trial and error and thought went into why this set up works for me.

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As Im considering getting a CH stick thanks for posing that layout.

One thing I noticed though I would do differently then you.
1 because I personally find it more intuitive on my TM stick

2 because it would free up and entire hatswitch for other options.

Instead of using the pinky button for the fire primary and the throttle hat for the alternate up views (back up,side up etc)

I would use the pinky button in combination with the stick hat for the Alternate views (Back up,side up etc)
that is when using the hat by itself you view forward up. forward Left ,Left Forward Right,Right,Back right,Back etc.
And when you push the pinky in combination with the hat you get your Up views in whichever direction you move the hat. Pinky by itself looks straight up, Pinky with hat Left up etc etc.

that would leave the hat on the throttle free for four more commands

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #26 on:** January 20, 2006, 11:55:29 PM »

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Originally posted by DonULFonso
Does AH recognize multiple controllers? If so, then you'll need to select the PT as device and the select its z-axis. AH obviously takes the 1st controller 1st, and that's the FS - and that's got a throttle-wheel = z-axis, so that's selected as default.

If this shouldn't help, you could create a (controller-)map via the CM and simply clear the FS' wheel (axis A3) from any DirectX output (or at least map a different axis to it). Then select the PT's throttle (axis A3) and change the device from "2" to "1" (but keep the z-axis).

I am not using CH Manager, I have all analog stuff, my old PT went bad and a squaddie sent me his old analog CH HOTAS setup...........the PT works fine when programming in 98se, but have not figured out why this setup isn't letting me recognize the throttle portion of the PT yet recognizes every button.......

it still picks up the rotary throttle on the stick in winXP but doesn't in win98se......it picks up the slider throttle on the PT ...........

so there is my delima.....I have use of every thing I need except have to switch hand to throttle on stick to work throttle....oh well one day will get all the USB stuff this analog stuff now ( 2 full sets of HOTAS ) and a combatstick and a CH fighter FX stick all getting around 9 to 10 years old.........

maybe in my offtime I can open them up and change good stuff from each other to make one ALL GOOD lol........

should of just ordered some pots from CH for the old PT since it worked except for some buttons/switches

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #27 on:** January 21, 2006, 07:00:43 PM »

<----getting partziehmers I was never looking at the throttle axis in speedkeys and never switched them.......DOH!!!!!!!!!!!! silly me all is fine now

Rolex · « **Reply #28 on:** January 21, 2006, 07:22:15 PM »

@ DREDIOCK: Spatula is using pinky as primary fire; I use it for vox. But, you're right about using an UP + hat. I was doing that before, but as I said, I'm trying to reduce the wear on the stick tophat since I'm on my 3rd stick in 18 months.

Good luck with any new stick. CH is reputed to have a great support, so you shouldn't have the problems I've had (3 sticks, 2 sets of pedals - which are now broken also - and 2 throttles in just 18 months).

Those are just the ones I had to buy! With the first set I bought, I had to fight to get them to replace stick, pedals and throttle right out of the box since all 3 were bad.

In total, I've spent about US$ 1,800. I have no evidence, but I think they ship the QC rejects outside the US since the warranty is different also.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #29 on:** January 22, 2006, 02:52:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
@ DREDIOCK: Spatula is using pinky as primary fire; I use it for vox. But, you're right about using an UP + hat. I was doing that before, but as I said, I'm trying to reduce the wear on the stick tophat since I'm on my 3rd stick in 18 months.

arent the hats replacable?

LOL I've gotten so used to replacing the hat on my ol TM Xfighter I can dissasemble replace and reassemble the stick inless then 5 min.

Did it once without even exiting the game. lmao