Author Topic: Holy crap. What a manuever (Read 2853 times)

detch01 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 21, 2006, 11:59:05 AM »

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Originally posted by mars01

These are guys they call "Zero Tolerance" individuals, that have honed their skills to a fine edge and are capable of these kinds of feats and are far from irresponsible.

Take another look at the video. There are people on the bridge. People who likely don't know the risk they are taking by being there. If someone wants to risk their own life that's fine - Darwin at work. Doing the same sort of thing and putting the lives of others at risk is utterly irresponsible.

asw

Bodhi · « **Reply #31 on:** January 21, 2006, 12:38:45 PM »

that is stupid.

mars01 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 21, 2006, 12:42:58 PM »

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Take another look at the video. There are people on the bridge. People who likely don't know the risk they are taking by being there. If someone wants to risk their own life that's fine - Darwin at work. Doing the same sort of thing and putting the lives of others at risk is utterly irresponsible.

Who is debating that there are people on the bridge? Nice try. Do you have any information about those people on the bridge? Do you know who they are? Do you know why they are there? Do you have any clue WTF you are talking about? These exhibitoins are planned and controlled. Are you retarded enough to think these guys are out on a leisurely sunday flight just flying under bridges?

Get a clue next time, cause your rent a clue aint working LOLH:rofl

reacher15 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 21, 2006, 03:35:56 PM »

here he is at work! look at those stupid people!

after he landed....now does he look scared!

as a quick side note....thats is my buddy working for a living and one of the "Sick Puppies" squad...some guys have all the luck!

last but not least....the last time i looked at War Birds things were NOT looking up!

detch01 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 21, 2006, 05:00:01 PM »

I gave you the benefit of the doubt for your experience and assumed you had keyed on the airplane and missed the safety issues. Seeing as that assumption was way off base I'm just glad you're not in my airspace.

Big balls & tiny brains don't make good pilots, just dead ones which isn't altogether a bad thing provided they die alone. The problem is they seldom do.

asw

mars01 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 21, 2006, 05:08:06 PM »

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Looking at the abrupt, almost stalled inverted push out. Id say he got closer to the ground than he wished. I.E. **** his britches on the push.

I'm not sure about that. After watching and looking for just that, it seems he is established inverted level, befor the push out and not decending still. There is a second or so that he seems to hold it. I think the push out was for the crowd and the show. It looks like he holds the vert, long enough to set up the series of snaps at the end.

I can't imagine what it must be like to watch, live, let alone what the people must have felt and smelled as that big 9 cylinder, 300+ HP radial, Suk flies a mear 50 or a 100 feet below them. The percussive wave from the engine alone in their chests as he flew by must have been sick!

mars01 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 21, 2006, 06:09:01 PM »

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I gave you the benefit of the doubt for your experience and assumed you had keyed on the airplane and missed the safety issues. Seeing as that assumption was way off base I'm just glad you're not in my airspace.

What are you insinuating? Because I see these people as professionals there is a problem and I am a safety issue? Maybe you are that stoopid, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

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Big balls & tiny brains don't make good pilots, just dead ones which isn't altogether a bad thing provided they die alone. The problem is they seldom do.

Who are you to judge anyones brains? PLease tell me everything about this event that you know that makes this guy have a small brain.

It's misinformed and uneducated people like yourself that give the sport a bad rap. 99% of the people who participate understand the risks, and mitigate them by careful planning, much training and alot of skill. To think they are stupid is pure ignorance.

Xjazz · « **Reply #37 on:** January 22, 2006, 12:55:12 AM »

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Originally posted by detch01
Big balls & tiny brains don't make good pilots, just dead ones which isn't altogether a bad thing provided they die alone. The problem is they seldom do.

asw

According to the J. Kairys homepage, he is a air frame engineer, who has important role during Sukhoi aerobatic plane series developing.

BigR · « **Reply #38 on:** January 22, 2006, 01:03:21 AM »

Awesome flying. Only a very few people possess the skill/guts to fly like that.

Also, for the people on the Bridge...they got to know that there might be a chance they are going to get hurt. It’s just like the people who stand right on the road at Rally races. It’s not the pilot/drivers fault if someone gets hurt. If you want to stay safe, stay off the bridge/road!

Now if this was an act of random flying under a bridge, I would call that irresponsible, but if this was a closed off event, then the people on the bridge know what they are getting into. If they get hurt it’s no ones fault but their own.

Enduro · « **Reply #39 on:** January 22, 2006, 04:16:20 AM »

I get goose bumps everytime I see that clip. GREAT flying. The party is always jumpin' at the Red Bull races.

parin · « **Reply #40 on:** January 22, 2006, 01:13:35 PM »

Hey as long as the people on the bridge signed a waivor, I am cool.

Golfer · « **Reply #41 on:** January 22, 2006, 01:46:39 PM »

Oh my god someone else is out there being reckless and careless flying under bridges. Actually a whole lot of someones!

Darn...that dumb track in the Red Bull races had contestants flying underneath a bridge...how careless, reckless and irresponsible.

Try a search for images from the Budapest, Hungary race. They were flying under a very much historic/landmark/symbolic bridge and I don't think anyone who was screaming "WOOO" was thinking about waiver. There were over a million people (1.2 million comes to mind) in attendance.

Like someone said...they're just good beyond the AH player comprehension.

KD303 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 30, 2006, 04:31:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Xjazz
Jurgis Kairys and his Sukhoi Su-31

Hate to be the pedant, but it's a Su-26. It was the first ever permited inverted flight under a bridge...er, of course. Kaunus in Lituania, 2000. He's been world champion several times. Calculated risk, nothing wrong there.

KD

Mustaine · « **Reply #43 on:** January 30, 2006, 04:41:06 PM »

did you guys see this:

http://mirror.vector.ch/%7Ehvoltige/videos/peter_goes_low.mpg

and this:

http://mirror.vector.ch/%7Ehvoltige/videos/zhang-jia-jie2.mpg

humble · « **Reply #44 on:** January 30, 2006, 05:07:05 PM »

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Originally posted by detch01
I gave you the benefit of the doubt for your experience and assumed you had keyed on the airplane and missed the safety issues. Seeing as that assumption was way off base I'm just glad you're not in my airspace.

Big balls & tiny brains don't make good pilots, just dead ones which isn't altogether a bad thing provided they die alone. The problem is they seldom do.

asw

I'm a bit suprised at the lack of knowledge exibited by this remark. This is nothing that guys like Bob Hoover and Chuck Yeager didnt do all the time. In fact Bob Hoover flew what was considered an "insane" routine in Russia during a Soviet airshow to show the russians up....they actually kicked him out of the country for it since they had baned him from flying it:).

Call it stupid for sure, but if your calling it unprofessional then your simply not recognizing the planning and pure pilot ability involved. Go call the Blue Angels unprofessional to.....they've killed more spectators then this guy has. Stunt flying is simply the highest expression of pilot ability and you tend to weed out the bad (or unlucky) sticks pretty quickly:).......