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Offline Toad

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« on: September 05, 2000, 10:22:00 PM »
Can't remember the topic in which this came up, but I finally found a site that appears to have some numbers. Can't vouch for them and not making any particular point.

Just thought some of those curious folks might find this site interesting:
 http://www.wargamer.com/articles/lldocefx.asp

Lend-Lease Aircraft And Fuel

The Soviets produced an estimated 101,000 combat aircraft during the War, supplementing their airforce with an estimated 15,000 following list of Lend-Lease aircraft:

Single-Engine Fighters Shipped Lost In Transit Arrived
P-39/P-400 Aircobra 4,719 Unknown 3,200 est.
P-40F Kittyhawk 4,017 Unknown 2,975 est.
P-47C Thunderbolt 195 0 195
P-63 King Cobra 2,456 67 2,389
British Hurricane 2,952 Unknown 2,250 est.
British Spitfire 1,331 Unknown 1,000 est.
Twin-Engine Aircraft      
A-20 Havoc (Various Versions) 2,908 Unknown 2,600 est.
B-25 Mitchell 862 Unknown 750 est.
British H-P Hampden 23 0 23
British A-W 41 Albemarle 14 0 14
C-47 Dakota Transports 8 0 8

In addition to these aircraft shipments, the Soviets received some training when
the planes arrived, usually when pilots delivered them. All of the arrived
numbers are an educated guess, due to incomplete bookkeeping,
shipping losses and contradictory sources.

As mentioned earlier the Allies shipped a total of 476,000 tons of 100 octane aviation fuel that was also one of the more important items received. Production of this fuel was necessary to considerably enhance aircraft performance. It required sophisticated refining equipment and advanced techniques of production that the Soviets were short of.


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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2000, 10:51:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Toad:
Single-Engine Fighters Shipped Lost In Transit Arrived
P-39/P-400 Aircobra 4,719 Unknown 3,200 est.
P-40F Kittyhawk 4,017 Unknown 2,975 est.
British Hurricane 2,952 Unknown 2,250 est.
British Spitfire 1,331 Unknown 1,000 est.
A-20 Havoc (Various Versions) 2,908 Unknown 2,600 est.
B-25 Mitchell 862 Unknown 750 est.

UMMMPF..."unknown" lost?...those allied oportunists...they did knew to substract didnt they?  

British H-P Hampden 23 0 23

DOH!!! I guess than Ivan threw them direcly to the scrapper  


NOw, seriously...nice info, Toad   Thanks for posting it.

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2000, 11:44:00 AM »
Many people told me that during the War they saw "stocks" of lend-leased planes that were delivered in unusable condition. Hundreeds of planes! People said they couldn't believe how many planes were delivered just to be wasted! Looks like "allies" had special quality control for the USSR.

And it's well known that in many regiments rearmed with second-hand Hurricanes pilots tried to crash them on landings, just to go to combat in their trusted I-16s instead of worn-out Hurries...

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2000, 11:59:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Boroda:
Many people told me that during the War they saw "stocks" of lend-leased planes that were delivered in unusable condition. Hundreeds of planes! People said they couldn't believe how many planes were delivered just to be wasted! Looks like "allies" had special quality control for the USSR.

And it's well known that in many regiments rearmed with second-hand Hurricanes pilots tried to crash them on landings, just to go to combat in their trusted I-16s instead of worn-out Hurries...

That occured within our own ranks as well, I'm reading VMF-323 "Death Rattlers" and once planes were delivered to the front lines, many had to be grounded due to low quality control.  You have to remember that the manufacturers were pressured to produce, produce, produce...and many of the problems  were simply written off  as "Field Serviceable".



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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2000, 12:26:00 PM »
Well, sometimes the delivery caused troubles. One La-7 regiment shipped to the Far East in 1945 got there completely rotten and unflyable...


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