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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2006, 01:00:20 PM »
I ain't a brave man by any standards. The risks I take are, for the vast majority of the cases, ones I choose myself. They fall within my comfort zone so to speak. Exposure to risk builds risk tolerance. Courage is going ahead and doing something that you are scared of.

Having said that, the threats, the burning of our flags, the increased hostility towards our soldiers in Denmark, the disrespect of Danish culture in Denmark itself shown by a minority of immigrants and the threats of terrorism and death really f... pisses me off.

You have you little sand yard. Go play there, build your stupid castles, oppress the crap out of each other.

But don't thread on me. And don't f... threaten me, my freedom or my kin.

If they start bombing stuff and killing people here, sure, it'd scare me.

But no way I am backing down. This is just too important. This is what mankind has strived for for so many years - freedom from oppression, freedom of expression, peace through acceptance of differences. Only in the last few hundred years have man managed this - and only for a select few, lucky enough to be born standing on the shoulders of giants.

Greater men and women than me have defended it. Greater men and women will do so in the future.

Enough is enough.

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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2006, 01:26:21 PM »
Islam is peace :O
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2006, 02:12:27 PM »
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Islam is peace :O


Careful. If you say it's not, they'll cut off your head just to show you how peaceful they are.

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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2006, 02:20:48 PM »
I think western democracies are starting to get really fed up with stone-age extremism.  I don't think I'm being dramatic when I say that this is a sign of the increasing clash of civilizations that bin Laden wanted to ignite.  Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better...
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2006, 02:24:52 PM »
Would be funny if WWIII was started over a cartoon...

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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2006, 02:55:24 PM »
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I think western democracies are starting to get really fed up with stone-age extremism.


I had the same thought this morning...I myself recognise that this last set of threats for me is a breaking point. I have been 'put off' by the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson many times, but as much as I consider those two as rabid, frothing idiots they are a far cry from these muslim mongrels with their violent threats and abject intolerance.
I suspect if they do carry out attacks on 'us', there will be a back lash that will be felt around the globe.

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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2006, 03:04:03 PM »
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You need to get a clue and stop getting your information from Worldnetdaily and Weekly Standard opinion pieces. France has some of the most stringent laws in the western world when it comes to keeping all religions including islam out of public life, education, the workplace etc. The recent rioters weren't rioting because they were muslims; they were rioting because rightly or wrongly they are poor and pissed off and because they feel like excluded second class citizens in what is supposed to be their own country. If you had ever worked and lived in France as I have then you would know that many "white" french maintain a thinly veiled contempt for their muslim countrymen.


Believe what you want.  Logic would lead the rest of the world to believe the editor was fired because he put anti muslim cartoons so as to appease muslims.
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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2006, 03:21:34 PM »
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Believe what you want.  Logic would lead the rest of the world to believe the editor was fired because he put anti muslim cartoons so as to appease muslims.


yep

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France Soir's editor, Jacques Lefranc, was dismissed by the paper's French-Egyptian owner in response to criticism from Muslim groups.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4673908.stm

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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2006, 03:33:16 PM »
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Originally posted by StSanta
I ain't a brave man by any standards. The risks I take are, for the vast majority of the cases, ones I choose myself. They fall within my comfort zone so to speak. Exposure to risk builds risk tolerance. Courage is going ahead and doing something that you are scared of.

Having said that, the threats, the burning of our flags, the increased hostility towards our soldiers in Denmark, the disrespect of Danish culture in Denmark itself shown by a minority of immigrants and the threats of terrorism and death really f... pisses me off.

You have you little sand yard. Go play there, build your stupid castles, oppress the crap out of each other.

But don't thread on me. And don't f... threaten me, my freedom or my kin.

If they start bombing stuff and killing people here, sure, it'd scare me.

But no way I am backing down. This is just too important. This is what mankind has strived for for so many years - freedom from oppression, freedom of expression, peace through acceptance of differences. Only in the last few hundred years have man managed this - and only for a select few, lucky enough to be born standing on the shoulders of giants.

Greater men and women than me have defended it. Greater men and women will do so in the future.

Enough is enough.


Yup, you let a few in...then they aim to take over.  So much for a religon of peace, eh?

They are the first to scream they are offended...and the first to shoulder a weapon...be it rock, twig, RPG or Ak-47.  What you have to understand is their religon is king to all, there is no respect for others.  They are a theocracy.  Sure, we can make room for them in our civilized society.  But absolutely, do not expect the same from them.

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2006, 04:01:28 PM »
You know, I was raised in a good household, and taught that people are different, and deserve to live their lives without being hassled by others.

I was raised to give a damn about other people.

This bunch has so angered me that frankly...I don't give a damn about them anymore.  I don't care what their cause is, what their issues are, what injustices they might have suffered, what unfairness they have endured...I just don't care.  I just want the whole bunch rounded up and isolated somewhere, where they can abuse, oppress and murder each other to their hearts content...apparently, that's all there is to their dogma anyway.

Why do WE have to be tolerant, and make room in our culture, and respect their indignities...while they butcher, murder and abuse us?  Why do WE have to care about their offended religious sensibilities while they burn my flag, or paint it in the plaza to walk all over?  That's OK, but a cartoon is a heinous crime?  They burn my (idiot) President in effigy, but I should weep at the idea of a critical cartoon?

Why do any of us (Westerners) think we have to make amends for a cartoon?  Who's going to make amends for the 3000 people that these animals slaughtered?  Who's going to make amends for the public beheadings?  This is acceptable, but a cartoon isn't?  

I'm offended to the very core.  Care to find a radical fundamentalist who cares?  Worse,we also get the less-than-radical muslims who jump on this kind of self-serving bandwagon.  How are we supposed to believe that we have ANY alternative other than obliterating every man jack of 'em...and outlawing their mythology?  Where is the equally strident voice of Islamic reason and moderation?

I've always...ALWAYS...found intolerance, bigotry and the "nuke 'em all" mentality to be criminally stoopid.

Guess what...I'm beginning to slip...:mad:

Sorry for the rant, but it's gotta come out somewhere.

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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2006, 05:38:08 PM »
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Not everywhere...


French editor fired over cartoons



By the Franco-Egyptian onwer, and the guy they tried to appoint to replace him refused.

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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2006, 06:28:53 PM »
Mosques litter the landscape of Christian nations yet Islamic nations are notorious for not allowing any other religion into their borders.
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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2006, 06:38:31 PM »
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Mosques litter the landscape of Christian nations yet Islamic nations are notorious for not allowing any other religion into their borders.


Damn right! I'm always bumping into the damned things or mistaking them for a supermarket or drive-thru MacDonalds. They seems to pop up everywhere.

Get a grip.
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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2006, 07:02:17 PM »
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Hear Hear for freedom and the right of free press!


always wonder what is the right way to write that?

I mean is it
"Hear hear"
"Here here"
"Here hear"
Or
"Hear here"?
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2006, 07:13:50 PM »
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Damn right! I'm always bumping into the damned things or mistaking them for a supermarket or drive-thru MacDonalds. They seems to pop up everywhere.

Get a grip.


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