Acronyms in AH and this BBS

[Pongo]

Ram you are a troubled man.
If you look at Conways 1922-1945. You will see that Armoured Cruisers like the Huron were numbered as CA9. Protected Cruisers like the Denver where numbered CL16 and Light cruisers like the Omaha where numbered CL4.
The pattern here is that armoured cruisers where numbered CA and Protected and Light cruisers where numbered CL.
The last "Armoured Cruiser" was CA19. The First "Heavy Cruiser" was CA24 Pensacola.

Are you so afraid to admit you have learned something new?

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[RAM]

If I am a troubled man, then what are you?    

Lets see, you have A LOT of assumptions completely wrong. I will burst your bubble for quite a second, sorry if it hurts.

Ram you are a troubled man.
If you look at Conways 1922-1945. You will see that Armoured Cruisers like the Huron were numbered as CA9. Protected Cruisers like the Denver where numbered CL16 and Light cruisers like the Omaha where numbered CL4.

Ohhh dont need to look at conways. "protected cruisers" like the Denver were commissioned in 1905. "LIGHT Cruisers" like the Omaha, were in 1923.

ARMORED CRUISERS like the Huron...(lol you'll gonna love this one) were CLASSIFIED AS ACR!!!!!!!!!!!. USS huron was ACR-9 SOUTH DAKOTA until renamed IN 1920! as CA-9 Huron

(guess that conways didnt say that,huh? but there is even more)

The pattern here is that armoured cruisers where numbered CA and Protected and Light cruisers where numbered CL

NO. Armored Cruisers were designed ACR, AND THEN, and by CONVENIENCE they were renamed HEAVY CRUISERS, designated as CAs.

Same with Light Cruisers...but twice. The USS protected cruisers changed designation from a single C (C.22, C.11) to PG in 1920 (yes, they were reclassified as PATROL GUNBOATS, believe it or not), and THEN in 1921 as LIGHT CRUISERS, designed as CLs.

NOTE that the ships designations CHANGED from ARMORED CRUISER to HEAVY CRUISER, and PROTECTED CRUISER to LIGHT CRUISER.

So in 1919 we have the ARmored Cruiser ACR-9 South Dakota, whilst in 1921 we have the HEAVY CRUISER CA-9 Huron. Same with the Protected Cruisers-Light Cruisers.

The last "Armoured Cruiser" was CA19. The First "Heavy Cruiser" was CA24 Pensacola.

USS you mean?...either way you are wrong. the first USS Heavy Cruiser built and commisioned as such from the start was USS Salt Lake City, in december 1929. USS Pensacola didnt did it until January 1930.

BUT, before THAT...you have...

IJN Aoba (1924)
IJN Kinugasa (1924)
IJN Furutaka (1925)
IJN Kako (1925)
IJN Myoko (1927)
IJN Nachi (1927)
IJN Haguro (1928)
IJN Ashigara (1928)

HMS Kent (1926)
HMS Berwick (1926)
HMS Cumberland (1926)
HMS Cornwall (1926)
HMS Suffolk (1926)
HMS London (1927)
HMS Devonshire (1927)
HMS Sussex (1928)
HMS Shropshire (1928)
HMS Norfolk (1928)
HMS Dorshetshire (Jan/1929)
HMS York (1928)
HMS Exeter (July/1929)

WOOOPS...that seems to be the ENTIRE British CA fleet...right? (   )

But lets follow!!!

RM Trento (1927)
RM Trieste (1926)

MN Duquesne (1925)
MN Tourville (1926)
MN Suffren (1927)
MN Colbert (1928)
MN Foch (Apr 1929)

Wow...seem an awful lot of CAs before USS Salt Lake City, right?

Are you so afraid to admit you have learned something new?

Lol...extract ur own conclussions.

P.S. Next time buy more books. Conways is good, but alone doesnt do too much    

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 01-21-2001).]

[Jay_76]

Good thread, but you could use a hijack response team or something...

Here's a few, for us newbies...

Any reference to K-  either 1000, or kilometers.  Context is everything.

{Yourname} 66666!!!  Check your Six.  Several times.  Sue for whiplash.

ib = Inbound

Jay.

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Jimdandy, I know what you mean. My pet peeve is in movies, TV,etc., when they say "Over and Out", which means "your turn to talk but I'm not gonna be listening". "Roger and out" is what they want to say.

I use cc only because that's what I learned here.

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[Pongo]

Good reference. But we are talking about the USNs use of CA to define a Heavy cruiser. Do any of those other countries use CA to define a heavy cruiser? So you say it is just coincidence that light cruisers are designated CL and Heavy Cruisers(the successors to Armored Cruisers) are designated CA?  That when looked at cronologicaly that CAs follow on the Armoured Cruisers and that the Armoured Cruisers had there call letters redesignated to CA in the early 20s.
OK.
Ill keep looking for  a definitive statement to the contrary.