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Offline Harry

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« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2006, 04:21:06 AM »
Not wanting to rain on your parade or anything, but...


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Their infrastructure was wasted long before we got there. We've been rebuilding and improving it. They have more and better water, sewer, electricity, communications, and schools than before March 2003, and it improves more every day.


Most of Iraq's power, communication, water treatment and waste disposal infrastructure were destroyed in the 1991 air campaign. Most of what was left was left with no availability of spares or repair due to the UN sanctions imposed on Iraq after the first Gulf War. The US coalition and the Iraqis themselves are nowhere near close to achieving the pre-1991 level of public infrastructure or education.

Whether this is solely the fault of the US or others is another issue.



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Oh, and last headcount I got from soldiers over there with boots on the ground, and not the media, the insurgency dies at a rate of around 10 for every coalition soldier even wounded. I doubt they are ven close to holding their own. They are now at their most violent because they are on their last legs. They fight hard because they are being destroyed. Remember the kamakazis?


If we're going to make historical parallels: 10 to one? That's about the same rate as in Vietnam. Look how well that went.

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« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2006, 05:49:21 AM »
All this sounds like some Clancy Book g damn that man's  an Oracle :D

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« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2006, 08:24:37 AM »
Sorry but I don't thing Mutually Assured Destruction will work against the Islamic people.

If some of them die to take us down, fine, they live in heaven afterwords with 9 houri women.

Give them 24 hours warning to remove people from the area/s.
Then put a cruise missle into any nucular reactors enriching fuel.

China Syndrome with a twist.

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« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2006, 08:39:33 AM »
"All this sounds like some Clancy Book.  G damn that man's an Oracle "


  Seems like the guys sure has some insight doesn't he? :)

  Only major problem is that for sure aint Jack Ryan in office.  

  Given the track record of incompetence in the US adminstration I wince thinking just how bad the stink-tank that brought us Iraq could screw things up in Iran - a country three times bigger than Iraq, who has allies in Syria, China and Russia and whose military didn't get a pummeling back in 1991 from which it never recovered from.

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« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2006, 09:29:03 AM »
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yes but it is not only U.S. Troops theres troops from the U.K. and Canada and...


Cameroon, I'm sure they'll once again join the coalition. :lol

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« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2006, 04:45:43 PM »
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By the way, its' not over dmf....  Pro Bowl next week, and Arena Football is just starting.


Yea but the main football is gone. :)

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« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2006, 04:50:06 PM »
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Cameroon, I'm sure they'll once again join the coalition. :lol


yep Canada will rejoin the coalition when hockey season is over

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« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2006, 04:50:52 PM »
Being the second son, I won't get drafted if it ever comes to that.

I fear that if we start a "military action" in Iran, they'll impose the draft just to fills the ranks out with tirgger fingers and bullet sponges.

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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2006, 04:59:58 PM »
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they'll impose the draft just to fills the ranks out with tirgger fingers and bullet sponges.


So he will get drafted?


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« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2006, 05:33:56 PM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Voting for a draft is political suicide.

Unless that is the foreign army steps foot on american soil.  There will be no draft unless Iran invades America.
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« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2006, 05:37:20 PM »
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Can we afford teh manpower to fight a war in Iran considering that we're already in Iraq, Afganistan, North Korea, and those little countries that used to be part of the USSR?


I must have missed some major news cuz I didnt know we had troops in North Korea heh.
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« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2006, 05:43:03 PM »
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I must have missed some major news cuz I didnt know we had troops in North Korea heh.


We don't I thought crazy old North Korean guy died:confused:

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« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2006, 06:31:50 PM »
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Being the second son, I won't get drafted if it ever comes to that.

I fear that if we start a "military action" in Iran, they'll impose the draft just to fills the ranks out with tirgger fingers and bullet sponges.


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« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2006, 07:35:15 PM »
I think we learned our lesson about the draft in Vietnam. Overall, you get inferior quality troops with low morale. These take higher losses. Higher losses lead to political defeat (sans a dictatorship and "total war"), stifling and/or ending your war effort.

As for the Iranians... people do realise this is the same army that only fought the Iraqis to a standstill, devolving into a war of attrition.. right? I'd give them about the same chances people gave the elite Medina Division... very strong... until the steel rain started.

I'm all for the Israeli's dropping a smart bomb on Iran's nutcase president before he turns into the next Kim Il-Jong... but if they do, and their's a coallition invasion, wow... gas is going to get *really* expensive. Everybody add Exxon, Shell, Occidental, & BP to their portfolios yet??

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« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2006, 07:45:47 PM »
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Voting for a draft is political suicide.

Unless that is the foreign army steps foot on american soil.  There will be no draft unless Iran invades America.


They don't have to "vote for a draft" lol...all American men 18 to 25...
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